Do you like fur ?

[Squeezer]

Regardless, there is a way to implement some level of ethical standards regardless the size or shape of the animals.

If it's less efficient, big fucking deal. That's part of the cost of doing business responsibly. For example, the institution of slavery was much more efficient in respect to labor costs. But due to ethical ramifications, the institution of slavery was eventually abolished.

But yet again, your putting animals above humans. There's a difference between an enslaved person, and a cow that will become hamburger. If we took your logic, then all animals are enslaved by humans. Why not set horses free, so that way humans can't ride them.

I agree, it's cruel. But if your gonna eat bacon tommorow morning, then I dont think you should be complaining about animal rights.

[Pandagirl!]

Actually, I'm not sure if he was smashing them against the ground to kill them. When we kill our chickens, obviously the first thing you do is tie up their wings. Then you smack them up against something, because, I'm not a science person so I don't know how, but it does something to make the killing more efficient, or numb their pain, I'm not exactly sure. By all means, smacking them against something doesn't kill them. And then obviously you cut their heads off and throw them so you don't get covered in blood.

Man, I still can't get over how horrible this sounds when I put it in writing.

[Subjugation]

But yet again, your putting animals above humans. There's a difference between an enslaved person, and a cow that will become hamburger. If we took your logic, then all animals are enslaved by humans. Why not set horses free, so that way humans can't ride them.

I agree, it's cruel. But if your gonna eat bacon tommorow morning, then I dont think you should be complaining about animal rights.

If you think I'm putting animals above humans, you're missing my point.

I'm putting unnecessary abuse of animals over self-absorbed greed. Like I said, you can still run a profitable slaughterhouse, or manufacture fur at a profit while at the same time adopting a basic level of ethical standards.

[Material Girl]

www.peta.org

I am not going to watch that video.

I have to comment that I am happily surprised that the mods haven't taken down the link. :sick:

[K2Grey]

I'm pretty sure it's more efficient to kill the animal first before doing stuff to it.

[Liquid Blue]

Not going to watch the video, but I agree that it's just plain cruel to not kill the animals before skinning them.

But, to put a bullet through the head of every animal starts to add up. Not only that, but the force it takes to bludgeon a pig, or a cow, that would take sooooo long to do. Thus, you have to hire more workers, and thus you lose money. It's a sad system, but it's a system nonetheless.

Why would you need a gun to kill every animal? It might be a bit messier, but believe me they can find a way to take out a cow or any other large animal without the need for a gun. Depending on the weight of the hammer, and where you hit the animal on the head, it actually wouldn't take as long as you think. It's not like they would just keep tapping it lightly on the "forehead" of the animal. More workers wouldn't be needed, it would just take a bit longer to kill the animals before skinning them.

But yet again, your putting animals above humans. There's a difference between an enslaved person, and a cow that will become hamburger. If we took your logic, then all animals are enslaved by humans. Why not set horses free, so that way humans can't ride them.

I agree, it's cruel. But if your gonna eat bacon tommorow morning, then I dont think you should be complaining about animal rights.

He wasn't putting animals above humans, he was just trying to give you a simple comparison to help show his view on ethics and efficiency. He wasn't trying to say animals are enslaved, more along the lines of just because skinning them before killing is more efficient, it doesn't make it right.

On the subject of setting horses free, most would probably suffer a fate on their own than if they stayed in ranches. Sad but true. We have spread our townhouses and strip malls over so much land, they wouldn't be able to find that many places where they could be left alone.

I agree with you about the animal rights thing, but it seems like most people who complain are vegetarians anyway. Others like you and I, just think it's cruel but don't try to act hypocritical and point fingers at those who eat meat.

EDIT: You and me = You and I

[Subjugation]

Yep

[Liquid Blue]

gogo sprunk.

[SaucyKing]

DUDE. My Physical Science teacher skinned a mink Thursday. It had been dead for 24 hours, and it stunk up the whole fucking classroom. I had to put my shirt over my face.

He also did it with his bare hands.

Edit: He used a knife, of course...I meant he wasn't wearing gloves while he did it. Whoops.

[Arikel]

Can you kill it to use its skin?

[Mulkero]

Never

[schope]

omg ! arikel ! so cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111 111111111

:wub: :wub: :wub:

[Liquid Blue]

Can you kill it to use its skin?

Not really, it's mom gave me more than enough to last this winter.


















Sorry that just popped into my head after I read that. :wub: though.

[Krusnik]

Damn it. I don't think any animal deserves this. I stick by my traditions so i'm a vegetarian..... Which also means I can't stand to watch freaken animals getting smashed onto the freaken ground. I bet they were still alive....... The do the same to baby seals in CANADA. Skin them alive.......

[Squeezer]

Damn it. I don't think any animal deserves this. I stick by my traditions so i'm a vegetarian..... Which also means I can't stand to watch freaken animals getting smashed onto the freaken ground. I bet they were still alive....... The do the same to baby seals in CANADA. Skin them alive.......

your posts are stupid. As are you.