The war is finally over! WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[DoTheFandango]

WWII wasn't fought in England

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[scumbag]

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Zeus is right, WW2 was fought mainly in France, Belgium, Holland, Italy and Germany, unless you count the Battle of Britain which was fought in the skies.

we have a conundrum, do you count the skies as part of Britain or not?
either way the RAF kicked the krauts arse!! :groovy:

[Troll King]

I read an article today about Canadian soldiers stationed in Manchester during the war. They passed their off hours playing hockey in the local arena. After an attack by the Germans however, the roof of the arena was wrecked. The Canadians still played there though, but only after erecting large tent over the ice. One of the tent's posts went right into one of the blue lines, so they had to manoeuver around this "extra" defenceman.

[Send]

erecting

lol!

[Ilya]

battle of midway is an excellent movie

[Torn Wing]

battle of midway is an excellent movie

It really is.

[Squeezer]

IRAQ

Not that I'm 100% against the Iraqi war, about 50/50 (my fence is padded), but WWII wasn't fought in England so more French/Dutch/Belgians and Northern Africans died than English civilians

And look at how much of the nation wants to replace him.....I think it was somewhere along the lines of 49%. Is that about right? And that's minus the dumbass hippies who are too lazy to vote Democrat.

As for Vyk's comment, America may not be a perfect democracy, but at least we're trying. We actually do a pretty good job of balancing extremist Christians and Extremist Liberals.

[ZeUs!!]

And look at how much of the nation wants to replace him.....I think it was somewhere along the lines of 49%. Is that about right? And that's minus the dumbass hippies who are too lazy to vote Democrat.

Well done, that... confirms my argument as he wasn't replaced?

[Liquid Blue]

Well you can thank ignorance to the issues, use of fear and wacky advertising when it comes to Bush still being in office. You won't believe how many people I've heard use the excuse that "he should finish what he started", and that they voted for him because he's fighting terrorism. Shit hurts my head if I think about it too much.

Now I'm no world war 2 buff, but I think squeezer was basically trying to say that FDR wanted to help out much earlier than he actually did, but his hands were tied by the people. They probably wanted nothing to do with war (big surprise there), and he decided that he could best help by trading with the allies and such, rather than making a big fuss, getting replaced and watching America fully turn it's back on the wolrd war.

[ZeUs!!]

That doesn't determine at what point the decision to enter the war was made, and at what point action was actually taken

[Liquid Blue]

Pearl Harbor was a major decision for most people, like I said- Americans generally wanted to be left out of the war. When Pearl Harbor got attacked, they got pissed off and wanted to get revenge. A petty reason sure, but from what I remember in highschool it was the big one. Like I siad I'm no ww2 buff, so I can't rattle off dates and times for you, but it shouldn't be too hard to google up.

[scumbag]

i only know shit about WW2 from what ive learnt, studied, played, watched blah blah blah

[Troll King]

I don't think people would have as much of a problem with the Americans joining the war late if there weren't some Americans who act like they deserve most of the credit for winning it. Whenever I hear someone say "you Yanks took your time before deciding to fight evil", it's usually after someone else said something like "we saved your butts in WW2".

[Squeezer]

Ok, I didn't want to explain it, but you brought it to this Zeus.

Post WWI, America was terrified of everything. They were terrified of the European nations, and helping them in any way possible, because we thought it was you guys who had dragged us into WWI (especially England). So We became Isolationists, and told the world to fuck itself. Luckily, we had FDR as president, so he understood that eventually, America would have to join the conflict, so he slowly brought us into the war with policies like the Lend-Lease policy, and the Cash and Carry act. In reality, we were doing all the same things that had dragged us into WWI, so given about six more months, the US probably would have been in the war. But, for the time being, the American people were still very much afraid of the rest of the world, so FDR was reluctant to join, waiting for a time when the whole world knew it was needed that the Americans join. He got his wish, when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7th. Pearl Harbor gave th US a clear goal to work against, the Japanese. But, FDR knew that Japan wasn't a threat to humanity like Hitler was, so he went for Germany first, despite the pleas from the American people for revenge.

That my friend is why we didn't join the war earlier, and how we eventually got entangled in the conflict.

[scumbag]

dont mean to rattle things further, but the Krauts brought the US into WW1, when the launched "unrestricted submarine warfare" and sank the Lucitania. it was a cruise liner that haad American civilians on board, the Krauts sank it because they said it was carrying munitions to Britain, but it wasnt.

they torpedoed your ass, and then we kicked their ass in return.
also have you noticed how Americans and British always get dragged into saving the French's worthless ass? Crimea, WW1, WW2, (touchy subject)Vietnam :ermm: