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Racism ain't cool kids.
Racism ain't cool kids.
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Sweeping generalizations are always bad. <-----sweeping generalizationComment
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Originally posted by Liquid Blue
Ive been around the subspace community for about 7 years now. Diffrent leagues, diffrent zones and diffrent people. Racism has never been a problem.
Your so busy acting political correct and being a smartass you fail to see my point completly. Racism is a problem because power-mongerers and people like you say so. I have never met somebody who takes racism from some moron over a spaceship-game seriously, and people who do shouldnt be allowed near a computer with internet-accsess anyway.
People are being banned and warned for bullshit reasons 24/7 and usually the mods hide behind the racism-rule.
And if your gonna be so god damn tight up and have a political correct subspace server, why isnt intolerance and abuse directed at homosexuals banned?
Hypocrites.Comment
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Racism is a problem because it offends people and a lot of people seem to like doing that in online games because they know their heads won't be kicked in for doing it.Comment
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Just to get something through first: Homophobia being ignored is not a reason for racism to be ignored; much like the argument that racism against whites isn't policed enough isn't also a reason for other racism to be ignored. That argument is basically that if we don't get justice for all there should be justice for none which is flawed. The proper approach should be if there's justice for some then we should have justice for all. I just want to get that out of the way because similar arguments are always brought up and they always have the same flaw. I know this was just a last minute thrown-in argument in your post, so I'm not just saying it for your benefit but because many others make the same mistake.Originally posted by I shouldnt be here
Second, like many others before you, you are putting more of the blame on people who are offended by racism than you do on the people being racist in the first place. Racism should have no place in society, but your approach is that the VICTIMS of racism should have no place in THIS society. Don't make the mistake of thinking that people making racist comments are blameless.
What Liquid Blue is commenting on, and what you're overlooking is that there really isn't any reason for people to make racist comments in this game. The only reasons you've given is "because staff wants to enforce it". That's not a valid reason, and we can see how it fails when applied to other rules like teamkilling or flying outside the asteroids. People generally don't do either more often just because it's illegal. And for the few who might, it's not a valid excuse in either situation. A similar excuse people use is that "they aren't really being racist. They're just doing it to be asses". That too is not a reason, nor should it be a defence.
As for your claim to have been here 7 years and never seen racism as a problem, there are two approaches to this. Most people would attack the claim of 7 years or your choice for a forum alt-nick to hide your identity. I don't have an issue with either nor should others. My comment is on racism not ever being a problem. From the rest of your post, it sounds like it'd take a lot for racism to be a problem for you, and by that I mean an outright visceral hate crime. If that's the minimal limit for you to accept that it's a problem, then no, it's never gotten that bad nor do I expect it to in this game. Many others though have seen a problem in racist name calling, insults and hateful dialogue. You may not see it as a problem, but many people do.Comment
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Originally posted by I shouldnt be here
TK mostly hit the nail on the head but I just wanted to elaborate a bit and give my own opinion on your post/ideas.
It really doesn't matter how long you've been apart of the subspace community, just because Racism hasn't been a problem for you, doesn't mean it isn't a problem in the game. There's no way you could have spent a week playing TW without seeing a good amount of idiots dropping the N-bomb, calling someone a jew or any other childish name-calling. It might not be a problem for you, and it might not be a problem for them, but they use such words because they know some people find them offensive. There's no other reason to use such slurs, other to get attention and get a rise out of someone - and because they know they won't get in serious trouble for saying such words..
Racism isn't a problem because of "power mongerers" and people like myself, it's a problem because people shouldn't be treated differently just because of their skin color or where they are from. The people who perpetuate this problem are insecure and feel empowered when they go to such lengths to make others feel beneath them, those are the folks you should be pissed at, not me. Just because someone doesn't take a racial comment seriously doesn't give you a right to still say that comment. There's no need for it, why do you feel the need to spew stuff like that? Is your vocab not big enough for you to find another way to trash talk someone you dislike?
Alot of people that I see making topics here whining about being banned usually say something along the lines of " omg this guy called me a fag so I called him a jew-Nword, why am I banned lol afk". Take responsibilities for your actions, just because you might not be racist in real life doesn't mean you can just say whatever you want in here. You don't pay for this game, you don't pay for the server, so you can either follow the rules or go somewhere else. Simple as that. Don't like the mods or the rules? Boo hoo, go away then.
As for the intolerance towards homosexuals, I've already said before that I don't have any angry feelings towards gay people, and I'm not a mod or on staff so I'm not too sure why you called me a hypocrite. Did I call you a fag somewhere, or say you like cock in your ass? I don't make the rules here, but then again I don't go calling people fags if they kill me in an online game anyway. Sorry, I don't need to resort to making fun of your race or sexual preference. It's not needed in the game either, but I can't do anything about homosexual slurs in terms of TW.My father in law was telling me over Thanksgiving about this amazing bartender at some bar he frequented who could shake a martini and fill it to the rim with no leftovers and he thought it was the coolest thing he'd ever seen. I then proceeded to his home bar and made four martinis in one shaker with unfamiliar glassware and a non standard shaker and did the same thing. From that moment forward I knew he had no compunction about my cock ever being in his daughter's mouth.Comment
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Troll King > "I shouldnt be here"
It's sad how so many people don't seem to learn from their horrible mistakes concerning logic, and yes, it is true that problem A existing does not mean that problem B should not be fixed.- k2Comment
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i'm sure we all know a bunch of good jokes, let's spurt them out now... without the punchlines...
How come Jewish people are good at football?
What did the Black guy give to his brother for his birthday?
How do you confuse a Newfie?
What do you call a black guy who flies a plane?
A Pilot you fucking racist... that one isn't really that bad...There once was a man from Nantucket.Comment
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