Jesus Christ is a HOAX: Irrefutable Proof

[Lucon]

Oh, Jesus was important. He was ironically responsible for more deaths than any other person in the history of the world.

[Subjugation]

ive considered looking into this theory...and sometimes i gotta admit it is hard to look past...there is a chance jesus didnt exist..and if he did he wasnt as important as we say...and i wouldnt be suprised either because it worked as a great control mechanism (christianity--just like most other religions)

That's kinda the point.

The absurdity of this thread is over the top because it's taking mysticism (Christianity) and fallaciously claiming to apply scientific testing to it. Science and mysticism are diametrically opposed because the former attempts to confirm/disconfirm it's hypotheses via Scientific Method, and the latter (hypothesis of Christianity) cannot be tested and confirmed/disconfirmed.

Just another example of why the guy who started this thread is a trolling shitbag.

For the love of Christ, who didn't die for your sins, plz close this thread.

[DoTheFandango]

Nice Shit.

[Tone]

That's kinda the point.

The absurdity of this thread is over the top because it's taking mysticism (Christianity) and fallaciously claiming to apply scientific testing to it. Science and mysticism are diametrically opposed because the former attempts to confirm/disconfirm it's hypotheses via Scientific Method, and the latter (hypothesis of Christianity) cannot be tested and confirmed/disconfirmed.

Just another example of why the guy who started this thread is a trolling shitbag.

For the love of Christ, who didn't die for your sins, plz close this thread.

This is a very emotional response with words like trolling shitbag and all, however, jesus and mary are isis and horus, and many others from culture to culture throughout time. do the research for yourself. have a nice day.

[PH]

[Subjugation]

This is a very emotional response with words like trolling shitbag and all, however, jesus and mary are isis and horus, and many others from culture to culture throughout time. do the research for yourself. have a nice day.

That's a very emotional response by saying have a nice day. Do the research and realize that it was actually Kali, and not the Illuminati who destroyed the Pentagon. Do not take off your tin foil hat, or the aliens will probe you.

[Saturn V]

aoshd;oahsd ;oiahd;OAHDAHDa;oshd o;aihsd oahsd

Jesus.

[Theif of Time]

hey j=t, my sister has a lavalamp. Its a paranoid lava lamp, so it wears a tinfoil hat.
Whenever someone mentions tinfoil hats, I think of that lavalamp. Its so freakin hilarious.

[pv=nrt]

Yea Jesus!

[Jerome Scuggs]

I didn't read the thread, so forgive me if this has been said or refuted:

If multiple cultures use him, doesn't that just strengthen the proof that maybe he was a real person? If one person says I have brown hair, another says my hair is green, and a third says it's red, there is reason to doubt my hair. But if all three independently say I have blond hair, then can't you assume that chances are, I do in fact have blonde hair?

[Tone]

Origin of Easter - Its Pagan Roots
The origin of Easter dates back to ancient times, not long after the global Flood recorded in Genesis 6-9 of the Bible. Nimrod, a grandson of Noah, had turned from following his grandfather's God and had become a tyrannical ruler. According to the biblical record, as king, Nimrod created Babel, Ninevah, Asshur, Calla and other cities, all known for lifestyles that promoted unspeakable evil and perversion. When Nimrod died, his wife, Queen Semiramis, deified him as the Sun-god, or Life Giver. Later he would become known as Baal, and those who followed the religion Semiramis created in his name would be called Baal worshippers. They became associated with idolatry, demon worship, human sacrifice and other practices regarded as evil.
The origin of Easter involves the birth of Semiramis' illegitimate son, Tammuz. Somehow, Semiramis convinced the people that Tammuz was actually Nimrod reborn. Since people had been looking for the promised savior since the beginning of mankind (see Genesis 3:15), they were persuaded by Semiramis to believe that Tammuz was that savior, even that he had been supernaturally conceived. Before long, in addition to worshipping Tammuz (or Nimrod reborn), the people also worshipped Semiramis herself as the goddess of fertility. In other cultures, she has been called Ishtar, Ashtur and yes, Easter.
The origin of Easter goes back to the springtime ritual instituted by Semiramis following the death of Tammuz, who, according to tradition, was killed by a wild boar. Legend has it that through the power of his mother's tears, Tammuz was "resurrected" in the form of the new vegetation that appeared on the earth.
According to the Bible, it was in the city of Babel that the people created a tower in order to defy God. Up until that time, all the people on the earth spoke one language. The building of the tower led God, as recorded in Genesis 11:7, to confuse their tongues to keep them from being further unified in their false beliefs. As the people moved into other lands, many of them took their pagan practices with them.
Contemporary traditions such as the Easter Bunny and the Easter egg can also be traced back to the practices established by Semiramis. Because of their prolific nature, rabbits have long been associated with fertility and its goddess, Ishtar. Ancient Babylonians believed in a fable about an egg that fell into the Euphrates River from heaven and from which Queen Astarte (another name for Ishtar or Semiramis) was "hatched."

Origin of Easter - Resurrection Day for Christians
For Christians, the origin of Easter is simply the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ about 2,000 years ago. According to the Gospel accounts, Jesus Christ, the true Messiah promised in the Old Testament, was crucified and resurrected at the time of the Jewish Passover. Since that awesome event took place, those who believe Christ is their Messiah have honored that day and often celebrated it with the traditional Passover. As the Gospel of Christ spread throughout non-Jewish nations, among people who did not have a history of celebrating the Passover, the pagan rites of Easter gradually became assimilated into what the Christian church called "Resurrection Day." Compromising the commandments of God with the comfort of the world is as old as the nation of Israel itself. Actually, American history teaches us that Easter was dismissed as a pagan holiday by the nation's founding Puritans and did not begin to be widely observed until just after the Civil War. Those interested in a Christian view of American history and the gradual compromise of America's Biblical foundations may wish to read books such as The Light and the Glory by Peter Marshall and David Manuel.

http://www.gusd.k12.ca.us/brownell/sfeaster.html

[Tone]

semiramis and her savior son, tammuz


Isis and her savior son, horus

[Kolar]

Yes there's a common theme of salvation in most religions. The man who defied the Romans and was killed probably did exist, Jesus of Nazareth.

[Troll King]

I've got a picture of my mom holding me like that.

My world will never be the same now.

[Tone]

http://jesusneverexisted.com/surfeit.htm

Was there a Jesus? Of course there was a Jesus – many!


The archetypal Jewish hero was Joshua (the successor of Moses) otherwise known as Yeshua ben Nun (‘Jesus of the fish’). Since the name Jesus (Yeshua or Yeshu in Hebrew, Ioshu in Greek, source of the English spelling) originally was a title (meaning ‘saviour’, derived from ‘Yahweh Saves’) probably every band in the Jewish resistance had its own hero figure sporting this moniker, among others.

Josephus, the first century Jewish historian mentions no fewer than nineteen different Yeshuas/Jesii, about half of them contemporaries of the supposed Christ! In his Antiquities, of the twenty-eight high priests who held office from the reign of Herod the Great to the fall of the Temple, no fewer than four bore the name Jesus: Jesus ben Phiabi, Jesus ben Sec, Jesus ben Damneus and Jesus ben Gamaliel. Even Saint Paul makes reference to a rival magician, preaching ‘another Jesus’ (2 Corinthians 11,4). The surfeit of early Jesuses includes:

Jesus ben Sirach. This Jesus was reputedly the author of the Book of Sirach (aka 'Ecclesiasticus, or the Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach'), part of Old Testament Apocrypha. Ben Sirach, writing in Greek about 180 BC, brought together Jewish 'wisdom' and Homeric-style heroes.

Jesus ben Pandira. A wonder-worker during the reign of Alexander Jannaeus (106-79 BC), one of the most ruthless of the Maccabean kings. Imprudently, this Jesus launched into a career of end-time prophesy and agitation which upset the king. He met his own premature end-time by being hung on a tree – and on the eve of a Passover. Scholars have speculated this Jesus founded the Essene sect.

Jesus ben Ananias. Beginning in 62AD, this Jesus had caused disquiet in Jerusalem with a non-stop doom-laden mantra of ‘Woe to the city’. He prophesied rather vaguely:

"A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against the whole people."
(Josephus, Wars 6:3)

Arrested and flogged by the Romans, he was released as nothing more dangerous than a mad man. He died during the siege of Jerusalem from a rock hurled by a Roman catapult.

Jesus ben Saphat. In the insurrection of 68AD that wrought havoc in Galilee, this Jesus had led the rebels in Tiberias. When the city was about to fall to Vespasian’s legionaries he fled north to Tarichea on the Sea of Galilee.

Jesus ben Gamala. During 68/69 AD this Jesus was a leader of the ‘peace party’ in the civil war wrecking Judaea. From the walls of Jerusalem he had remonstrated with the besieging Idumeans (led by ‘James and John, sons of Susa’). It did him no good. When the Idumeans breached the walls he was put to death and his body thrown to the dogs and carrion birds.

Jesus ben Thebuth. A priest who, in the final capitulation of the upper city in 69AD, saved his own skin by surrendering the treasures of the Temple, which included two holy candlesticks, goblets of pure gold, sacred curtains and robes of the high priests. The booty figured prominently in the Triumph held for Vespasian and his son Titus.

But was there a crucified Jesus?

Certainly. Jesus ben Stada was a Judean agitator who gave the Romans a headache in the early years of the second century. He met his end in the town of Lydda (twenty five miles from Jerusalem) at the hands of a Roman crucifixion crew. And given the scale that Roman retribution could reach – at the height of the siege of Jerusalem the Romans were crucifying upwards of five hundred captives a day before the city walls – dead heroes called Jesus would (quite literally) have been thick on the ground. Not one merits a full-stop in the great universal history.

But then with so many Jesuses could there not have been a Jesus of Nazareth?

The problem for this notion is that absolutely nothing at all corroborates the sacred biography and yet this 'greatest story' is peppered with numerous anachronisms, contradictions and absurdities. For example, at the time that Joseph and the pregnant Mary are said to have gone off to Bethlehem for a supposed Roman census, Galilee (unlike Judaea) was not a Roman province and therefore ma and pa would have had no reason to make the journey. Even if Galilee had been imperial territory, history knows of no ‘universal census’ ordered by Augustus (nor any other emperor) – and Roman taxes were based on property ownership not on a head count. Then again, we now know that Nazareth did not exist before the second century.