Lord of the Rings Questions(1 - 2 - 3)

[SpiderMage]

I wasn't talking about that.

I was talking about your alliterations between that book and the bible, man. It's the kind of thing that christians I tend to laugh at do.

Actually Sarien, if you watch the Appendicies on the Extended DVDs, htye mention that reference as well, because Tolkien was indeed a devote Catholic.

[GlitterKat]

how in g*ds name could an army beat a Balrog if its completely fire and shadow? how does one touch upon such a thing?

water and light?!?!?

[Sarien]

Actually Sarien, if you watch the Appendicies on the Extended DVDs, htye mention that reference as well, because Tolkien was indeed a devote Catholic.

Yeah, and Peter Jackson isn't a tubby cocksucker, either. I don't particularly care for the movies either, especially that last one. So, yes, I would still tend to laugh and make fun of any person that's going to say the lord of the rings is some sort of allegory for Jebus Christ and the bible.

It doesn't matter if he was a devout catholic or not, because believe it or not, even halfway intelligent devout christians don't have to inject god into every single corner of what they see or do.

[SpiderMage]

Yeah, and Peter Jackson isn't a tubby cocksucker, either. I don't particularly care for the movies either, especially that last one. So, yes, I would still tend to laugh and make fun of any person that's going to say the lord of the rings is some sort of allegory for Jebus Christ and the bible.

It doesn't matter if he was a devout catholic or not, because believe it or not, even halfway intelligent devout christians don't have to inject god into every single corner of what they see or do.

I never said it was an allegory for the Bible, I said it's similar and I only used the Bible reference for those who haven't read the Silmarillion, because it is similar to the Bible, without Jesus however. Silmarillion can also hold a similarity to the myth/legend of Atlantis, namely Numenor, all I did was give a comparison.

And I prefer the books to the movies, but I thought the movies were good, even with the changes, because LotR is an extremely hard book to turn into a movie.

[Sarien]

but the Silmarillion mirrors the Bible very closely, thanks to Tolkien being a devote Catholic. Illuvatar is the name of God, Melkor would be Lucifer, Manwe would probably be the Archangel Gabriel or another of the high ranking Angels and is brother to Melkor.

That isn't describing similarities man. That's saying the one represents the other. To which I'm telling you, that since you have said that you recently adopted the Jesus, it's looking like you're trying to draw correlations between completely independent things, back to the bible, probably to bolster your own faith. I don't care if you're christian, good on you. Rock on. More power to you. But I'm surely going to tell you how ridiculous it looks when this kinda thing comes up. Or as a friend of mine says: From French Fries to Phone Numbers, they want it all to go back to God somehow.

[Liquid Blue]

Wait, so does a little bit of Jesus die every time I eat a french fry?

[Sarien]

Only if you eat it without saying grace. That's what that is for.

[geekbot]

I'm sensing some anger here, Sarien, you should watch out.

Anger, hate. Hate, suffering and all.

[Theif of Time]

^^^ leads to the dark side.

[K2Grey]

This Bible -> LotR/Sil connection is really weak and is restricted only to Eru/Ainur really.

[ZeUs!!]

Wait, so does a little bit of Jesus die every time I eat a french fry?

Did I ever mention the time I went for a Jesus Curry? I might have done, I'm sure someone like Jeansi will search it if I have.

This was about 6 months ago, and I was in town in the library getting some stuff for a paper I had to write, and my flatmate texts me asking where I am and would I like to go for a curry? I said yes and they said that it was cheap curry night in the union - the building which I was standing next to. So I went into the union and waited for them to get there. While I was sitting there my ex-girlfriend walked past and as per usual a little bit of me died on the inside. Then they got there and we went upstairs to where the curry was happening... and she was there. Along with the rest of the Portsmouth University Christian Union. I panicked and ran straight to the bar, where I stood for 30 mins waiting for the God Squad to disperse so we could have our curry. Then my flatmate (who's a vicar's son) told me what I was fearing: it was a God Squad Curry. Not that I'm amazingly anti-religious, its just that cults and stuff like that scare me, and I don't want to be converted while I'm enjoying a nice Tikka Masala. I had to be pulled from the bar literally by my ankles, with my fingernails digging into the bar and scratching grooves on the surface. I then spent the evening texting people frantically with the message 'please please text back I've goto t look busy and avoid eye contact' and pretending I got more than the 7 or so replies that I actually did, thus making me extraordinarily busy. Then they stopped the curry for another prayer and everyone had to question their faith. Thats when we split

[Liquid Blue]

You crazy kid, you.

[Theif of Time]

Why would they do such a thing? the world is a very strange place...