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  • #76
    I've been a regular user of opiates (once every 1-three weeks?) for over three years without ever having to increase dosage. This may not qualify as addiction, as essentially by the time I decide to use them again, the body has flushed the remainder out. Not to say that this can't result in damage to the liver or kidneys over time, but with all due respect to life, I like to enjoy it. Compared to the average drinking habit a person in their early to mid twenties usually commands, I think I'm on a fairly more healthy path. (Opiates are also not a neurotoxin.)

    There was a relatively famous surgeon who, while not consistently working, didn't consider himself qualified to operate on a person without insulfating a precise (non-increasing) dosage of morphine.

    I don't think it's impossible for a person to live a relatively normal lifestyle, and even a productive lifestyle, with a mild drug habit, or alcohol habit, or what have you.

    I guess the basic idea I wanted to relate in that last post is that opiates often aren't enjoyable until you have tried them many times. Whether this will lead to regular use, and whether this regular use constitutes addiction, I don't know.
    "You're a gentleman," they used to say to him. "You shouldn't have gone murdering people with a hatchet; that's no occupation for a gentleman."
    -Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment

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    • #77
      Originally posted by qan
      PS. How is kratom?
      kratom is very much a short acting opioid in every way, much like hydrocodone. absoultely everyone who trys it agrees on this. theres a long thread on it at another forum. hydrocodone is better, but kratom do doubt is just like an opioid, regardless of having indoles totally unexpected to be mu agonists. the rifat strain of kratom seems to be no more powerful than regular kratom. kratom wears off quite fast even a little faster than hydrocodone.

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      • #78
        Has anyone tried Brainwave Generator? There's some presets that claim they can produce the same results as LSD and other drugs.

        Edit: Trying it now, I'm getting visual distortions, I feel like I have lost a lot of my control and I'm very impatient after 20 mins of listening. I don't know if that's what LSD is but it's fucked up.
        Last edited by Kolar; 08-19-2005, 07:30 PM.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Kolar
          Has anyone tried Brainwave Generator? There's some presets that claim they can produce the same results as LSD and other drugs.

          Edit: Trying it now, I'm getting visual distortions, I feel like I have lost a lot of my control and I'm very impatient after 20 mins of listening. I don't know if that's what LSD is but it's fucked up.
          yes i have tried the brainwave generator and made my own brainwave via binagural beat and other methods. they cannot produce the effects of LSD but may be able to change mindstate

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          • #80
            Shut up Tone.

            No one believes that you do opiates, so stop trying.
            Originally posted by Jeenyuss
            sometimes i thrust my hips so my flaccid dick slaps my stomach, then my taint, then my stomach, then my taint. i like the sound.

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            • #81
              You could, of course, apply that same argument to qan. But I don't see that happening.

              Originally posted by Disliked
              Imagine a world without morals... it would be like the tw community
              +++ Divide By Cucumber Error. Please Reinstall Universe And Reboot +++

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              • #82
                Pandagirl's voice

                http://media.putfile.com/tone2-1

                Panda on acid (panda's real voice)

                http://home.ripway.com/2005-2/260790/pandagirl.wma

                you can hear her say 'hero' at the end.
                Last edited by Tone; 08-20-2005, 04:23 AM.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Tone
                  'Nuff said.
                  Pandagirl!

                  (ph)>12 is just right

                  In the most dangerous game...warping will only prolong your defeat. ?go warpwars -Chao <ER>
                  1:Chao <ER>> what the FUCK?
                  1:Chao <ER>> I just adverted and no one came
                  1:Chao <ER>> at all
                  1:Mantra-Slider> chao
                  1:Mantra-Slider> you are in the wrong arena
                  Panda <ZH>> ?find chao <ER>
                  Chao <ER> - hero

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by ConcreteSchlyrd
                    This happens to me too, and I've never done anything of that sort. I don't think it's drugs--there's got to be some explanation, but I'm short on what it might be.

                    Sometimes I think my phone is vibrating and then I find it across the room in my purse. This puzzled me for quite a while but I have concluded that the misleading vibration must be my stomach rumbling. Since then I have added a new 'medical term' to my personal vocabulary. - Radioactive Stomach. :grin:
                    Will Thom Yorke ever cheer up? - ZeUs!!!

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                    • #85
                      Its not my stomach.

                      I feel it on my leg too. I think it is a subconscious thing.
                      Originally posted by Jeenyuss
                      sometimes i thrust my hips so my flaccid dick slaps my stomach, then my taint, then my stomach, then my taint. i like the sound.

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                      • #86
                        The same thing happens to me all the time. Sometimes when I'm watching TV I'll even think that I hear my phone ringing, until I realize it's just some high pitched sound on the TV.

                        Cell phones are brainwashing us! </tone>
                        Pandagirl!

                        (ph)>12 is just right

                        In the most dangerous game...warping will only prolong your defeat. ?go warpwars -Chao <ER>
                        1:Chao <ER>> what the FUCK?
                        1:Chao <ER>> I just adverted and no one came
                        1:Chao <ER>> at all
                        1:Mantra-Slider> chao
                        1:Mantra-Slider> you are in the wrong arena
                        Panda <ZH>> ?find chao <ER>
                        Chao <ER> - hero

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                        • #87
                          Well, that's just being retarded.
                          Originally posted by Jeenyuss
                          sometimes i thrust my hips so my flaccid dick slaps my stomach, then my taint, then my stomach, then my taint. i like the sound.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Ephemeral
                            NONE of you young people should be experimenting with drugs.

                            (that way, there is more for me)
                            Damnit where's that from, an old sig or just something you said in some chat long ago?
                            5: Da1andonly> !ban epinephrine
                            5: RoboHelp> Are you nuts? You can't ban a staff member!
                            5: Da1andonly> =((
                            5: Epinephrine> !ban da1andonly
                            5: RoboHelp> Staffer "da1andonly" has been banned for abuse.
                            5: Epinephrine> oh shit

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by DoTheFandango
                              I think it is a subconscious thing.
                              I get it too, and I thought it odd when reading about this cos ive said it to my mates and they get it too..

                              I reackon because I always have my mobile in my right pocket then it always vibrates at roughly the same spot when it rings.. I think that the muscles have just gotten "used" to the vibrating and like to have a little shake themselves from time to time. It's wierd tho..
                              LoPIST> i have tons of leet freinds

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                              • #90
                                if you want to try mind altering drugs start slow, i don't recommend anyone use them, I choose not to because I can't control my emotional state while I'm on them and I've had bad trips just like the one you talked about, and if you're prone to bad trips don't let anyone talk you into trying it again because that's not being a good friend. Why didn't you guys have a sitter? Your friend should have never let you leave, if you're freaking out remove yourself from the room and find a place in the house or area you were in where you could calm yourself down.

                                (I recommend no one use them because even though it can increase clear thought it usually tends to be disaterous especially for people who are minors)
                                Last edited by Cops; 08-21-2005, 05:27 PM.
                                it makes me sick when i think of it, all my heroes could not live with it so i hope you rest in peace cause with us you never did

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