Hey Asian guys, got a question.

[Liquid Blue]

I was heading to school this morning, and got on the metro. It was about 11:30, so it was pretty empty. There was a white guy sitting with his asian girlfriend on one side, and the other side was kinda empty. I was about to take a seat on the opposite side, a few seats back, but there was some gum there so I just sat in the same isle as them, maybe 2 seats behind them. A little while later this asian guy sits in the same row of seats as them, just on the opposite side. Everything is normal I guess, until the girl puts her head on the white guys shoulder, I guess that's when the asian guy first noticed her. He looked over there, and got this kind of..not disgusted look, but kind of the look like " you're with him?! " on his face. I hadn't really seen that happen before, although I have seen some emo asians on forums complain about all the asian girls going for the white guys, woe is us, the asian male, etc etc ". They basically think that the asian girls who go out with a white guy are traitors, are trying to conform to a white-person lifestyle (I forgot the name they had for them, but it was for when an Asian girl tries to act white). A few also seemed to project that it was an insult when they saw an asian girl with a white guy.


What I was wondering, is do the asian guys here feel the same way? Do you have relatives, maybe some from China, Japan, Taiwan, etc that grew up over there and think the asian girls here are "traitors"?

Another thing- I don't know if Bio was dating a white chick, or if TK has dated one (sorry don't know many other asians off the top of my head here)- but would your parents frown on you if you brought home a white girl? Are they strict in the idea that you have to marry an asian girl?

[Lucon]

By American standards, white men are more attractive than Asian men.

[Lucon]

I'm not saying by my standards, I mean by what is considered to be attractive in American culture. I just thought I should clear that up.

[Liquid Blue]

Don't spam my topics man, use the edit button.

[Lucon]

I have one of those disorders where you can't see a certain object, and that object is edit buttons.

Just kidding, it's actually because I get my jollies from double-posting.

Oh god ConcreteSchlyrd don't ban me.

[kamakazi-insomniac]

im a white guy with an asian girl, who dosnt consider herself to be asian at all. and this is so cool to be able to say asian over and over without being baned. she is koren witch i suppose is asianish. but ANY way. yeah she is like () big around yet can eat a fuckign cow, o/ you anarexictagi9ous fucks who are 99.9% food storage

oh yeah and her asian friend dosnt like her for that reason, so thats prolly a big fuck you to the male ddr freaks

[Superted]

I don't mind, I love asian chicks

[Ilya]

asian girls hate when asian guys go out with white girls

HATE

[Liquid Blue]

Really? I don't know any asian girls that well so I never even thought about that. I don't think any aisian girls post here though, so it's kinda pointless to ask why, I guess.

[Troll King]

There could be a number of factors behind that guy's reaction, not just a feeling of racial treachery.

Culturally, Western society has made the Asian female seem exotic, almost like a fetish. At the same time, Asian males are almost desexualized. Just take a look at examples from film, like Romeo Must Die. The title implies a Romeo and Juliet theme of lovers from opposing factions. The film does feature two characters, Jet Li's and Aaliyah's, who are from opposing gangs, but there's no romantic connection. Throughout Hollywood history, Asian men are rarely presented in a sexually masculine way. There are rarely any mainstream films in which the Asian guy gets the girl. The only example I can think of is Harold and Kumar Go To Whitecastle, but that film was all about playing on racial types and twisting them around anyway. Take a look at some of the more recognized Asian celebrities in western culture: Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Chow Yun Fat and Lucy Liu. Of the men, only Chow Yun Fat has that romantic leading man kind of image, but his few western roles don't reflect upon them much. Jackie Chan and Jet Li however don't have that romantic or sexual appeal. Compare these to Lucy Liu and you'll see how much of a difference there is. Seeing Lucy Liu in a Maxim photo shoot isn't that big a deal, but try imaginine Jet Li in a similar shoot for a women's magazine. Age is a factor too. Asian male celebrities tend to be older. You don't have the young Asian male as much as you'll find the young Asian female.

The result of this cultural sexualization and de-sexualization is that it becomes easier for an Asian woman to attract a non-Asian man, and at the same time, harder for an Asian man to attract a non-Asian woman.

Another factor, affecting Chinese Asians moreso than others, is how they culturally view themselves. China has long had an isolationalistic history, shutting themselves off from other cultures. Traditionally, the Chinese word for "human" or "person" referred only to Chinese people. That's why in many Chinese dialects, the word for White people can be loosely translated as "ghost" or "spirit" or even "demon". Chinese culture has long been very xenophobic. It's not really as hateful as it sounds though. Part of it has to do with how China has stood against outsiders in the past. One of the peculiarities about Chinese history is that, though it has been conquered by outside forces several times in the past, almost invariably, the invaders wind up being the ones who get integrated into Chinese (or more specifially, Chinese Han) culture, not the other way around as logic dictates.

Another theory is more about gender than race. The way a lot of Asians view interracial coupling is that when a White man is with an Asian woman, he's got a fetish for Asians and she's a sexual object. When an Asian man is with a White woman, he's managed to achieve something, and, again, she's a sexual object.

My parents have told me that they don't mind if I wind up with a non-Chinese girl. In fact, they expect that to happen more likely than my finding a Chinese mate. Part of that has to do with immigration patterns. More recent immigrants to North America (and their off-spring) are more likely to stick within their cultures, while immigrants from the 70s or 80s (and their kids) are more likely to mix. That's because when earlier immigrants came over, there wasn't as much of an Asian presence. In the last two decades however, immigration has ballooned and there's a larger infrastructure for Asian culture. There's not as much of a need to adapt or become "westernized". As a result, children from earlier waves of Asian immigrants, like myself, grew up "White", as it were. That's not to say that children of more recent immigrants won't either. They just have more options available to them. Of course, I'm speaking as a person growing up in multi-cultural Toronto. Different areas with different demographics and Asian populations will be at different stages of the same process, so someone who is Asian growing up in say, Newfoundland, would culturally grow up the same as an Asian child in Vancouver in the 80s.

[Ilya]

yeah

crazy asians

[Shukun]

Asian girls.. :wub:

[Xog]

TK's right.


Somewhat-Related-Topic:
If you think about it, actually.. in 200-300 years from now everyone's going to be a tan color. So much cultural mixtures and immigration patters combining together so fast, that eventually the future generations of peoples will all be the same color. Interracial marriages are becoming more and more popular, resulting in a mixture already. Just somethign to think about.

[Bioture]

asian girls hate when asian guys go out with white girls

HATE

about 50 percent of the time, yea.

[dchao]

I went out with a HOTT Korean girl and I'm Asian...