Faith

[Bioture]

I have faith in telcat that she will continue to do whatever it is she does for a long, long time.

[Theif of Time]

There are alternate definitions of faith.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=faith

#1 Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
#2 Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief. See Synonyms at trust.

[Dealt]

Yay More Religion Related Topic Please.. They're Not Getting Old Fast.. Honest..

[1ight]

What is science then? Science can't prove that God exists nor can it prove that God doesn't exist. Believing in science will not save you. Why be stubborn and follow science, science doesn't give you any salvation. I know I would choose Christianity, then being stubborn and die empty handed. I know I can die with a smile on my face, knowing that I choosed the truth, while others will be afraid on their deathbed, dying stiff.

Jesus loves me and I sure do love Him. And I know He loves you too. What other god has ever died for their believers? I know one, who died on a cross, for the sake of our sins. Now why is it so hard, to accept the love of God, given to you freely, He just waiting for your to answer His knocks on the door.

Do you know that by jewish tradition or the to act, saying that you love someone, doesn't neccecary mean that you love them, by the jewish way. By inviting someone to their home, is a way of showing that you love that person that you have invited to your home, to be served with food and etc.

And then, Jesus, he comes and knocks on the door, waiting for you to invite Him. And usually its the other way around, that the family/person invites the other part.

But Jesus, when He is invited in, he does not only make the food, He also serves the food and eats with you, while it should be the other way around, that the one that opens the door and invites the other person in, should make to food etc.

Rev. 3:20
"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me."

You see, you might have noticed that I do offtopic some. That is all I have to say about my thought and the teaching I've heard. If you ask a question, most likely I won't be online to see it, I rarely even read the forums at the moment. :>

Take care of yourself, don't too much, life is more the playing, so remember to take breaks, so that you won't burnout. : )

[R1pp3r]

Jesus loves me and I sure do love Him. And I know He loves you too. What other god has ever died for their believers?

This new god I just invented. He is called r1pp3r and is just as good, and in my new religion there is no hell only heaven. It is called R1pp3ran1ty. Gg sucker!

[Troll King]

Yay More Religion Related Topic Please.. They're Not Getting Old Fast.. Honest..

A shame too that a thread title like "faith" is so misleading that you had to open it expecting something other than a religious discussion. Damn Telcat for making you read this thread!

[Twerp]

If someone lacks the ability to proof logically then he/she is stupid and the state of not awareing material evidences is called ignorant.

Everyone is lacking the ability to prove logically that God exists. So basically, you are stupid as you put in your own words.

So why faith has been painted in such a good color but stupidity and ignorance have always been in the bad book?

Like someone said before, faith can help you out when you need it. It can guide you, while stupidity can't help you in any way.

[Kolar]

What I find most interesting about faith is, is it a learned behavior or do we have some innate need to have faith.
I have read some very interesting research with very young children that revealed a very strong bias towards ‘needing to believe’.

So do you guys think that faith is learned, or are we born with a need to believe?


In my mind, the need to believe is a part of the evolution of 'learning'. As humans evolved, learning was a very important trait to pass forward. Learning quickly was a matter of survival in early humans, a child that learned quickly would be less likely to die, thereby standing a greater chance of passing forward that trait to his children.
And what facilitates quick learning as a child? A willingness to 'believe/have' faith in the person teaching you (parent). My opinion is that children are born like "learning sponges', absorbing huge amounts of information as they grow. The capacity of children to learn is greatly enhanced with their willingness to believe in what they are told (hence Santa Claus, monsters, etc.).
Given these things, I tend to believe that all humans have an innate 'faith' trait when they are born. Hmmmm, wonder how this might tie intol human's spirituality?

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I read somewhere that there is a specific part of the brain that drives us to believe in a higher power. When some people's brains are expossed to a magnetic feild (I'm not sure on the specifics here, only from memory) the ones who are very religious said they could feel a connection with God, other who were not religious said they could feel a presence, like they were being watched.
I think it's a biological need to make sense of our surronding, what we know is always pushing back what we have to believe in to make sense of our reality. For some people it pushes them into relgious dotrines and rituals and for others it makes them more critical.

[Kolar]

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Science is the field of human observation and experimentation to expalin pahnomona. While it is unlikely that science will ever prove the existance of God there is also no evidence that we have a life beyond this mortal one, thus science isn't there to save us but only to expand our knowledge and make our lives better.
Science isn't a religion, you don't follow it. Think of it as a tool.

I guess the best answer to why people chose not to blieve in specific things like creationism, jesus and other biblical items is that it is all lazy and doesn't force you to think critially about your life and your envrioment. It's right for people to be afraid of what they do not know, even if there's no after life the time you have in this one should be spent exploring and expanding your mind and enjoying life, not following strict rules and a poor ideology of right and wrong which leads far too many down the wrong path in life and fails them far too often.

[schope]

I believe in your tits

[Bioture]

I believe in your tits

I have faith in those same titties.

P.S. PM me if you want pics.

[T3l Ca7]

From a logical standpoint, at least, that's how I think most people go at faith. In a way, it's the basis of all human knowledge, inherently a logical thing, and indeed the only way we can get anywhere -- else we would all the stuck trying to prove our own existences, being unable to take even the most basic appearances on faith, and shut down as a result.

Faith is then a good thing. It's the logical principle that allows you to reason about anything without knowing the full truth, a thing which can never be known anyhow.

All exceptionally intelligent people (that I know of) are skeptics. The fact people behave the way they were told does not necessarily mean that they believe in what they were told. A lot of the times it is because it is socially acceptable to behave in that way.

What I find most interesting about faith is, is it a learned behavior or do we have some innate need to have faith.
I have read some very interesting research with very young children that revealed a very strong bias towards ‘needing to believe’.

The very same reason that makes them gullible.

So do you guys think that faith is learned, or are we born with a need to believe?

Personally I think being sceptical requires more knowledge and greater ability to reason than to simply believing everything you are told.

Because to doubt, you need the experience to provide the basis for doubting, you also need an alternative reason for what it is. Because as a human we can't accept something without knowing why it is so.

[T3l Ca7]

Telly... do you believe or have faith in a god?

Good question: but more importantly, if Goddess got into a cat fight with God (namely Zeus) I wonder who will win, the one with sharper nails or the one who can drink more beers.

This is such a good question I start to think it draws parallel interest from me as the question that whether Epinephrine and Troll King both fell in love with Daze when they met up.

[T3l Ca7]

I believe in your tits

But my tits don't trust you :fear:

[just]

Originally Posted by 1ight
Jesus loves me and I sure do love Him. And I know He loves you too. What other god has ever died for their believers?



Christianity is Monotheistic correct? Then how can a man (Jesus) be a God? Did not God create him? If so, then there cannot be two Gods, or else you'd be going against one of your fundemental beliefs. Purely inconsistent logic.