Abortion

[Rhino_haha]

First off, pandagirl you have no clue what your talking about. Don't judge other people with your "deal with the consequences" bullshit. Try to look outside your box, because by saying what you say your world will become very limited. You can shout "your ideas and your morals", but not everyone shares "your ideas". And "your ideas" can hurt/ offend other people. Show some respect to other minded people.

She isnt judging anybody...

She probably would have said that to whoever.

That's her opinion, she cant speak her opinion? You're speaking your opinion right now, should I bash you about your opinion, and tell you tha you cannot speak of it. Who cares if nobody shares her ideas or morals, she still has the right to speak them.

So please, think before you submit a reply, you're being really hypocritical by saying that she isnt supposed to speak her mind when not everybody will agree, when you just did. Thank you.

[Squeezer]

This is a horrific analogy, since if you kill the driver then the driver is dead no matter what you do, and what you decide to do does not particularly affect what happens. However, if a young person gets someone pregnant, then the option of having an abortion is still available, and after an abortion the situation is reset, so to speak, whereas there is no way to resurrect the dead driver.

I thought it was a great analogy.

If you do something potentially harmful to yourself and others, then there could be consequences. If you aren't ready to face these consequences, or the possibility that these consequences can occur, then you should not partake in such detremental activities.

Basically, don't do stupid things unless you're ready to pay for them.

[froedrick]

I thought it was a great analogy.

If you do something potentially harmful to yourself and others, then there could be consequences. If you aren't ready to face these consequences, or the possibility that these consequences can occur, then you should not partake in such detremental activities.

Basically, don't do stupid things unless you're ready to pay for them.

Drunk driving and having underage sex don't mix as analogies.

[Kolar]

Having sex leads to babies. That's just the fact of life. Contraceptives were invented to possibly get around that, yet sex still produces babies. Knowing that, if you're going to have sex you need to face the consequences of your actions.

People in general will almost always do the wrong thing. Although you may see sex as only a means to produce offspring it is also an act of love and when you intend on making love with a person, long last or not ect.. the goal was not to produce a child 99% of the time. You can talk about all the consequences they have to live with but you're dealing with a person's life here, 3 actually. Forcing two people to be together and support a child is just not always an option so why not think about how their lives may be, how it will effect the parent's lives before the child becomes a person?


I support all other options before this though such as giving the child up at birth but it comes down to the choice of the parents. The pregnency-and giving up the child or the abortion in my opinion would make anyone think twice before not using protection again. Lesson learned.


I love my niece and I would die to save her life but that life didn't exist up until a certain point. It's a touchy issue but basic freedoms can not be denied no matter how many dead fetuses you want to show me.
Umm... Please don't post dead fetuses on here, I know I just asked for it but it's against the forum policy.

She isnt judging anybody...

She probably would have said that to whoever.

That's her opinion, she cant speak her opinion? You're speaking your opinion right now, should I bash you about your opinion, and tell you tha you cannot speak of it. Who cares if nobody shares her ideas or morals, she still has the right to speak them.

So please, think before you submit a reply, you're being really hypocritical by saying that she isnt supposed to speak her mind when not everybody will agree, when you just did. Thank you.

Big problem here is she is posting on a discussion forum stating a closed minded unethical and religious opinion and says no one can change her mind. This is fine anywhere else but it just pisses people off especially when they want another side or opinion that makes sense. Dronning just doesn't cut it here, sorry.

[Saturn V]

That's her opinion, she cant speak her opinion?

No.

[Sex Bullet]

Ladies come and then their gone. Opinion is the difference between right and wrong. Friends are here and they disappear. We make mistakes, but do we learn? Do we always get what we deserve? Family's around, but then we die. All good things come to an end, and you'll never know why. What goes around comes around. Life's a bitch. Living and dying is at the flick of a switch.

[Sex Bullet]

actually its for my g/f and ty for all ur responses, and when i rape pandagirl shes gonna be begging for an abortion. Heres your aborted fetus for ya pandagirl!

I'd hit it

[Dealt]

you can't abort rapists , they're already born

I thinkyou misunderstood, i was relating to a late abortion.. as in death penalty? :fear:

[SEAL]

Edit: Changed my mind. Not going in discussion.

[syzygy]

1. religion has nothing to do with being pro-life or not. not all people of one religion are for or against abortion.

2. you're all just as 'close-minded' as Pandagirl, and if we have to put up with your mindless chatter, at least put up with ours.

3. no one can disprove a moral...that's the point of it being a moral. it's not 'unethical' to think one way over another. while some believe a fetus isn't a person, others argue that it is; or, in the least, that it's alive, and abortion is killing it.

Ryder, i admire your fatherly attitude, attacking Pandagirl was really mature. for your child's sake, i hope it never gets to see your face, and however you go about making sure of that is your will.

[Cyrus]

I think either's likely, but this guy made a thread a little while ago about how many happy shoppers he likes to entertain each week

Hi zeus, check him on aliasing, i think he used the name "cut" before, and that name is banned...

can't stand him so it'd be good to get rid of him already

[K2Grey]

I thought it was a great analogy.

If you do something potentially harmful to yourself and others, then there could be consequences. If you aren't ready to face these consequences, or the possibility that these consequences can occur, then you should not partake in such detremental activities.

Basically, don't do stupid things unless you're ready to pay for them.

The reason why the analogy is bad is that the situations are completely different.

You have case one, where you get drunk and hit some car and kill the driver. In this case, the driver has already been killed, you are already going to jail, etc. There is nothing you can do at this point.

There is case two, where you get a girl pregnant. At this point, you still have multiple options open for you. You can abort the pregnancy, you can attempt to raise the child, with varying degrees of success or failure, you can put it up for adoption and hope someone accepts it, orphanage is also possible.

In both cases, you are in an unfortunate situation, however, if you get a girl pregnant then there are still many ways to minimize the damage. There is no reason not to minimize the damage if possible.

[gerry]

If this thread was a car, it would be a Kia Sedona.

haha best post on this thread.

[Squeezer]

The reason why the analogy is bad is that the situations are completely different.

You have case one, where you get drunk and hit some car and kill the driver. In this case, the driver has already been killed, you are already going to jail, etc. There is nothing you can do at this point.

There is case two, where you get a girl pregnant. At this point, you still have multiple options open for you. You can abort the pregnancy, you can attempt to raise the child, with varying degrees of success or failure, you can put it up for adoption and hope someone accepts it, orphanage is also possible.

In both cases, you are in an unfortunate situation, however, if you get a girl pregnant then there are still many ways to minimize the damage. There is no reason not to minimize the damage if possible.

All I'm saying is that both of those are unfortunate, and both are consequences of actions that were taken. In my opinion, young teens are not ready to accept or even realize those consequences, so teens should not be drinking and driving, nor should they be having sex, because they are not prepared for the responsabilities that come from both.

[DoTheFandango]

Its funny because Prostestants/Lutherans were mad because of Religious persecution and now they look down on anyone that doesn't see the same way as them.

A.K.A. FUNNY.