Abortion

[Pandagirl!]

Ryder, your ignorance amazes me. Threatening to rape a 16 year old girl because she thinks that abortion is murder? Even if I was raped, I would never even consider getting an abortion. I know I would never be able to stay in school as a mother, so yes, the baby would go up for adoption. There are so many couples out there that want a baby but are unable to have one for themselves. There aren't many babies sitting in adoption agencies - babies have the best chance of being adopted.

Basically my whole spiel is that you're despicable, abortion is wrong, and adoption is a great option.

[Squeezer]

Ryder, your ignorance amazes me. Threatening to rape a 16 year old girl because she thinks that abortion is murder? Even if I was raped, I would never even consider getting an abortion. I know I would never be able to stay in school as a mother, so yes, the baby would go up for adoption. There are so many couples out there that want a baby but are unable to have one for themselves. There aren't many babies sitting in adoption agencies - babies have the best chance of being adopted.

Basically my whole spiel is that you're despicable, abortion is wrong, and adoption is a great option.

But what happens when there are more babies than adopting parents? See, here's the great conundrum most Christians don't understand. If you get abortion laws passed, then you're going to have to allow for gay couples to marry and adopt. Otherwise, the straight couples whom are infertile (there aren't many) will not be numerous enough to adopt all the unwanted, unaborted babies out there. Who's going to want those babies? Gay couples unable to reproduce. So, for you uppity Christians, you need to decide which is more important, allowing gays to have more rights, or neglecting those of unborn babies?

[Tone]

some good abortion links:

Abortion information, charts, statistics of abortions, including graphs. Laws, statistics, articles, and student abortion report assistance.
www.abortionfacts.com

Professional association for abortion practitioners. Offers information on abortion, clinic violence, and pro-choice views on related issues.
www.prochoice.org

National organization advocating for and providing comprehensive information on reproductive rights in the US Numerous local affiliates.
www.naral.org

thank god for abortion, my friend had an abortion which prevented a tremendous amount of suffering for her, her family, and the potential human.

[Subjugation]

All I'm saying is that both of those are unfortunate, and both are consequences of actions that were taken. In my opinion, young teens are not ready to accept or even realize those consequences, so teens should not be drinking and driving, nor should they be having sex, because they are not prepared for the responsabilities that come from both.

We're talking about a basic biological urge that is millions of years old. Drinking and driving is not a biological urge. Fucking is. To think that you can persuade most people under the age of 18 to not have sex is to live on fantasy island.

[Superted]

thank god for abortion

<_<

I know a man, a good one at that. His Mother was considering abortion, luckily she didn't. Now he has children of his own.

[Squeezer]

We're talking about a basic biological urge that is millions of years old. Drinking and driving is not a biological urge. Fucking is. To think that you can persuade most people under the age of 18 to not have sex is to live on fantasy island.

I think sex among youth has less to do with biological urges than it does from outside sources. Certainly the hormones are raging, but I think the urge comes from a curiosity bred from the exaggeration the media presents sex to be. The same can be said about alcohol consumption. Both do not have the best decisions before and after each is commited. So, what I'm saying is that to do either requires a bit of foresight on the part of the participants to look at every possible outcome, and decide what to do in case they're faced with a situation as such. Otherwise, they are not prepared and thus should have to face their decision, and the consequences. So, if they've talked about it, and came to the decision that an abortion would be right, then more power to them, but if they were not prepared to deal with such an issue, that I wont feel any sympathy. I'm pro-choice, when there has been some foresight, and at least some discussion as to what to do.

[Subjugation]

If you think that the media exaggerates sex, then you're either not doing it right, or having sex with the wrong person. There's a very simple reason why sex is the most physically pleasurable act we participate in (aside from modern drugs).

I think you're seriously underestimating human biology, but I think that's probably because you are a smart guy and probably take your own intellect for granted. Not everyone can be reasonable about their primal urges. Not when it's before the act, but especially when they're balls deep and about to bust a nizzle and release the jizzle.

[K2Grey]

All I'm saying is that both of those are unfortunate, and both are consequences of actions that were taken. In my opinion, young teens are not ready to accept or even realize those consequences, so teens should not be drinking and driving, nor should they be having sex, because they are not prepared for the responsabilities that come from both.

This is of course true, but that does not have anything to do with the morality of abortion.

[syzygy]

Prostestants/Lutherans...look down on anyone that doesn't see the same way as them.

don't generalize. one man is as unique as the next, no matter what group they may [say they] belong to.

i'm Protestant. i don't look down on anyone for any reason. and no one, not even other Christians, see the same way as i

[Tone]

We're talking about a basic biological urge that is millions of years old. Drinking and driving is not a biological urge. Fucking is. To think that you can persuade most people under the age of 18 to not have sex is to live on fantasy island.

WRONG, drinking is a biological urge. using drugs is a biological urge and has been as far as history goes. animals use drugs too.

[Ilya]

one time i was driving and drinking orange juice and that shit spilled all over the place

[K2Grey]

don't generalize. one man is as unique as the next, no matter what group they may [say they] belong to.

i'm Protestant. i don't look down on anyone for any reason. and no one, not even other Christians, see the same way as i

There are, however, certain characteristics that Protestants and Catholics are defined by, and which can be used to generalize all Protestants and Catholics.

[syzygy]

then, by all means, pm me the stereotypes

[froedrick]

All I'm saying is that both of those are unfortunate, and both are consequences of actions that were taken. In my opinion, young teens are not ready to accept or even realize those consequences, so teens should not be drinking and driving, nor should they be having sex, because they are not prepared for the responsabilities that come from both.

Exactly they are not ready for such responsability. But sex is going to happen, and accidental pregnancy will also happen, but to condemn a young child to be forced to take care of this baby, and put them into some state of welfare. It's detrimental and abortion is a firm option.

[K2Grey]

Certain generalizations about the Catholics are that they are Christian, that their leader is the Pope, that they believe in special importance of saints and Virgin Mary, that there are sacraments, that going to church regularly is important, that the bread and wine is not solely symbolic, etc.

I don't think anyone would really dispute those generalizations.