i already knew some mods dont give a shit but....

[Skilder]

can we respect tw staff nowadays? No.
They keep recruiting some newbies who have played like 1-2 years and dont even know the commands in our lovely zone.

[Dameon Angell]

Oooh, lets start with ...

A.) That was the newbie who teamkilled Ayden first, I called it an even call since they both stopped after doing it once, which I think is pretty fair.

B.) You don't come into someone's house sounding like an asshole and expecting them to remodel the place just for you.

[Evasive]

who the fuck and what the shit is a "bkgmjo"

[winipcfg]

who the fuck and what the shit is a "bkgmjo"

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And that was quite possibly the coolest event ever. Sakke1 vs. World. I'll cut your head off if you take away my Sakke1 vs. World.

[Sakke]

it was only an event, which was hosted becouse i got back, that dosnt mean they support cheaters, i was banned for a year after all, thats not really supproting

and the sakke vs world was only a quick round befor the accual game started

dont whine about it, it was just a normal event

[bkgmjo]

who the fuck and what the shit is a "bkgmjo"

It's not enough to just lie, whine and cry.

B.) You don't come into someone's house sounding like an asshole and expecting them to remodel the place just for you.

yah this is pretty much the same behavior you guys show in the game. i have alot of respect for staffers who take that job serious. who work on it AND still dont think they are higher beings than the rest of the players and can behave like that. nothing personal against those who dont but since you guys have a staff position, cant you just sometimes try to behave a little? im not expecting anyone to be perfect here, just some manners sometimes. if you dont like what i say, say nothing or just disagree. no reason at all to get personal. shows just you dont have yourself under control.

did you guys realise this zone, the whole game is dieing? more and more people leave because it becomes damn boring to see 24/7 automated and always the same more or less manually hosted events again and again, wishes and very good ideas of players that are not heard or discussed, additionally pubs that are only halffilled with people that hang out in spawn cos they think ?go base is the only place where you are supposed to base and ?go elim is how to play in pubs. the only challange left there for vets is lting, and yah, this is pissing ppl off too but its the only thing except spawning you can still do, basing is boring as hell there when you have only 2 ppl attacking.
those who come in as new players just never get a chance to see how great this game once was and how many surprises and diffrent ways of playing it had to offer. actually if not for all the ppl i know and love to talk to i wouldnt come on at all anymore. and this isnt just me. i heard that from lots and lots of old players. most of them were never seen again. just because of that.

is this the situation when you can allow yourself to piss ppl off by namecalling or just giving stupid comments? guess yah cos thats what i have mostly seen lately. either that or staff that doesnt seem to care about how the player community sees them.

honestly i hate when i just hear a random "stuff sucks" or "lazy bastards" because i see how much effort some of you put into the game, and most of that behind the scenes, especially anticheat/-bug, management, stafftraining, botcoding, listening to ppl, design, developing, etc. the list is long.

but comments like that are neither productive nor painting a better picture of how people see staff. its just defensive and personal hurt feelings. if you have to react like that just give the job to someone else. there are enough volunteers.

blah im not trying to get you to dismiss the whole staff or w/e but ive seen alot of progress the last months, staff actually showed up in pubs again and there was some basing going on. which was like an event a few months before. and id like to extrathank those who do show up where new people come in and keep the game crowded, yah you too dameon, i dont hate you. just maybe try to keep up the good work ive seen going on and dont take the step back to concentrating on veteran/personal friends entertaintment only. especially not while you ask players to help on marketing.

btw if it really makes a diffrence who said this... bkgmjo was my first name on the game back around 97/98, now you see me fly around as L O V E or undefinable

[bkgmjo]

it was only an event, which was hosted becouse i got back, that dosnt mean they support cheaters, i was banned for a year after all, thats not really supproting

and the sakke vs world was only a quick round befor the accual game started

dont whine about it, it was just a normal event

yah it was a cool event, ppl had fun playing it, and i dont know what you got banned for. and i dont even care since i got no idea who you are. but yet again i saw a "ppl who get banned/cheat are cool" in it. might be overreacted but i started the thread after i tried to talk to the guy who did the ad and got no answer at all. its not just that but that cheating and ignoring rules in pubs cos there are still only very few mods present is more than annoying. and ppl who go like "lol report me, i only do it in pubs, nobody cares about it here" are common

[Shadowmere]

Check my signature, and figure out where to do complaints to.

Now someone lock this thread I dont wanna read another 25 lines of bs.

[winipcfg]

Check my signature, and figure out where to do complaints to.

Now someone lock this thread I dont wanna read another 25 lines of bs.

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[Shadowmere]

Wini I only read 24 of that....... :wub:

[Fidel Castro]

Random Player: wah wah I need help

Staffer: I'm better than you and I don't give a fuck what you need
Staffer goes to help out friends

Random Player posts on forums


This has happened how many times now? Like a million?

Staffers can't do everything at once, but some of them could do a better job in helping their fellow player out, and I know some of them would rather ignore a no name person in order to continue fucking around with their friends or chatting. Pub helpers to help the newbies out wouldn't be a bad idea, because they are usually the ones that are bitching about nobody answering their help questions. Also, I think Kolar and Dameon and other people should reconsider the tone of how they post to these things, you are just making staff look like bigger assholes when you post certain things. Even though you don't know the people complaining, you should be more respectful to them and use some manners, and eventually you might stop seeing threads that say "staff are assholes" or "staff doesn't care". I know respect and manners are two very foriegn words to 16-22 year olds, but you might want to give them a shot and start conducting yourself with grace and dignity.

[Aquatiq]

the <PH> tag (PubHelper: some player initiative to help newbies that do not get ANY form of assitance by the real mods)

What player initiative?

[Hakaku]

I think I learned to press F1, before I ever understood how to pm

On topic: Can we please stop making 10 paragraph-long posts just to outline a simple argument?

[Capital Knockers]

You know, I stopped reading this after the first 15 replies or so. You people are fucking stupid, every post I bothered to read, only supported this guys actual arguement. How can we expect people to start playing, if they just log on and run into a bunch of jackasses.

Everyone seems obsessed with tearing apart his suggestions, just to make themselves look good. Good for you, you know how staff works. Why the hell do people attack newer players like this, are you that desperate to be accepted in an online community that you need to bash someone as soon as the slightest oppourtunity presents itself?

[bkgmjo]

What player initiative?

some guys that wanted to just help players without any mod powers, just give hints and introduce ppl to the options they have, actually they alread ydid that before, just wanted to dedicate a squad and a tag to it