Another Pussy Thread

[Liquid Blue]

Well, here's the thing. Kthx and the other wannabe rebels spend their time just trying to push boundaries and doing stuff that is considered a "no-no". Be it image spam, defending the right to say racist words in pub (tw's michael richards, amirite?), and now the most recent fad, saying or making topics about the word "pussy", since it got Money banned.

Alot of the idiots just want to see how much they can get away with, and then cry if they get banned. They were just yet again, trying to push the limits in this topic. Your problem didn't start there, it actually started with the threat. On one hand you have the people who are just itching for you to ban 5-6 people for not breaking the rules (OP not included), and you have people who get upset because you threaten to abuse your position of power (ala Sarien, amirite?) just because you don't like what they're doing.

Worst of all you made a threat and didn't back it up, which is just going to lead to the anti-civilized lemmings to keep harping you on every occasion. You also have the percentage of the population that knows you threw an empty threat out there, but is more upset at the fact that you even mentioned abusing your power. Kind of sucks from most angles, welcome to DG land.

Good luck with that!

[Zerzera]

There was no rule broken, no boundary crossed, therefor no limit pushed forward.
He made an empty threat because there was no reason to ban anyone.

[Liquid Blue]

He made an empty threat because like DG in the Sarien thread, he thought it would shut the lemmings up. It didn't and backfired, because it pissed whole lot more people off.

[Zerzera]

LB, I know nothing of your background, you probably believe that enforcers of the law can decide what the law is, but history has proven that is never a good idea. Centralized power often leads to cases where the people in power get the illusion they can mold their surrounding into a perfect world.
Eventually this proves never to be the case, but by the time they realize this it's already too late.

So specially for you, the rules, one by one.

1. No html. It isn't enabled.

This thread contains no html.

2. No spam.

It's a conversation about cats, it's no unwanted advertising or multiposting (more than 2 posts in a row)

3. No Disgusting/Porn pictures, including links. It doesn’t matter how much warning you give, no means no.

The chicken is naked, but that's not really disgusting is it?

4. No Warez/Serials/Cracks/Hax0ring/SS Cheats/etc, including links. This includes discussions of bittorrent/DC or other file sharing programs. It’s just not what these boards are for.

nope

5. When posting pics, keep the screen and file size reasonable, don't break the tables.

None of the pictures does.

6. Do not leech bandwidth. If we get complaint emails we’re sending them on to you. Posted images must be linked from an image hosting site or from your own webspace.

Could you please check this for me?

7. Keep your fights in Trash Talk forum. If you have an issue with in-game staff, please refer to the sticky in TW Staff forums. If you have an issue with Forum Staff, please email the Forum Admins.

Rudy started!

8. You get one forum account, that's it. If you lose your password or wish to modify your account name, please use the contact us link found at the bottom of the page

Ya ya

9. If your topic has been moved, closed, or deleted: don't post it again.

I don't think kthx had a pet thread before that has been moved, closed or deleted.

10. If you have a complaint about a forum ban, E-mail forum staff. Do not make complaints about zone bans here.

Didn't see this happening yet, the only one complaining was Rudy.

11. No referring links for offsite offers/games. free ipods, etc.

Didn't happen

12. Racism is forbidden.

But discrimination is only frowned upon most of the time... either way, this thread doesn't contain racism.

13. No overly large or obnoxious signatures. If your signature is inappropriate, you will be asked to change it. Failure to comply will result in it being removed for you and will count as a rules infringement.

Expunge, Liquid Blue, Rudy and Ikrit break this rule in this thread in my opinion.

14. Do not revive a perceived 'dead thread' without adding a worthwhile contribution to the thread. Both the variables in this rule are down to the individual mod's discretion.

This thread was made 2 days ago.

15. No copyrighted content.

Everything that is written is copyrighted so this rule is broken the moment you make a thread?? I guess it's meant to say that you aren't allowed to use others people copyrighted material on these forums.

16. No forum or zone staff impersonation.

Didn't happen..

Now Liquid Blue, if you still don't understand we can go through these rules again.

[Jerome Scuggs]

I don't see why the admins are bound to some sort of code. DG paid for the forum upgrade, she should make the fuckin rules.

[Zerzera]

Sure, we can always leave CoT's forum and make a new one. But I don't think this one should be allowed to use the www.trenchwars.org URL anymore then.

EDIT: I was also planning on saying he could change the rule 'don't annoy me' today and ban anyone he wants tomorrow. But that will be the end of these forums.

[Killer Soldier]

Wow, so Killer Soldier did actually think that ban was unfair? I thought he was just messing around for the sake of an argument.

Unbelievable.

Ewan, this is different from what i said to u a few months ago.

This time rudy said my morality is fucked up because he thinks "GO TO AFRICA AND DIE" is racist aswell, banned again ok. So about Rudy saying "the ban you think was unfair (Hi Killer Soldier!) " -- Rudy how are u helping me out about that? Your not. Exact quote from you: "You have a warped sense of morality. If you cannot see why you were banned for such an offensive comment, I predict this will not be the last time you will be found in breach of this particular zone rule. I suggest you take some time to review your train of thought.
It is virtually impossible to be banned for racism if you do not say anything in public. So perhaps consider keeping your mouth shut in future. It would at least save you trying to debate it afterwards." -- Thanks for the laugh u trash.

Yeah so really i'd like to see someone come forward (Thats not a complete douchebag who wants staff) and show me how your helping all of us, cause i honestly can't see this 'help'

[Jerome Scuggs]

Sure, we can always leave CoT's forum and make a new one. But I don't think this one should be allowed to use the www.trenchwars.org URL anymore then.

Zerz, we're all playing this game on borrowed time - any minute Virgin could snap the SS copyright back up and shut down Continuum. This shit's like e-Mad Max, way beyond Thunderdome.

[Zerzera]

I didn't get your point, but nevermind, I think it's safe to say now that Rudy did nothing more than derail our pet-thread. Can't we just go back to the topic?

[This thread will die within 4 posts anyway after this whole 'pussy' thing is settled, and would have died yesterday hadn't Rudy jumped into kthx pool]

[Killer Soldier]

The Gay Pussy
This pussy likes to be licked all day by itself and other pussies. The gay pussy is very rare yet hated by the normal pussies!

The White Pussy
This pussy is the best around. It is very popular in France, where they are bought for cheap prices. Watch out for all the hair on them though, it may get all over.

[PH]

image spam

[Squeezer]

I don't wanna say Karma, but maybe unbanning the guys that Sar perma-banned wasn't such a good idea....in hindsight.

[Liquid Blue]

LB, I know nothing of your background, you probably believe that enforcers of the law can decide what the law is, but history has proven that is never a good idea. Centralized power often leads to cases where the people in power get the illusion they can mold their surrounding into a perfect world.
Eventually this proves never to be the case, but by the time they realize this it's already too late.

So specially for you, the rules, one by one.

I didn't need an explanation of the rules, I was simply telling you why he made the empty threat. It's not because he was trying to mold this forum into his "perfect world", he was simply threatening to throw his weight around in an effort to get the idiots to shut up. They were annoying him and he wanted them to stop, so he tried to use his position to do so, it didn't matter to him at the point and time whether or not there was a concrete offense he could have banned them for.

Expunge, Liquid Blue, Rudy and Ikrit break this rule in this thread in my opinion.

If 4 sentences is "overly large" or obnoxious to you, then like I have to deal with seeing internet rebels, you're going to have to deal with my sig. It's not inappropriate, and to me doesn't seem long so tough shit to you.

Now Liquid Blue, if you still don't understand we can go through these rules again.

If it's harder for you to understand my posts I'll try to simplify them for you, especially since a four sentence signature is far too long for you. Hope I'm not breaking your tables :turned:

EDIT- Yea you better frown PH, you big poopie head.

[Subjugation]

See, here's the thing. You may be a weirdo, but you're not stupid. You know that what you're saying here doesn't really make sense, but you're saying it anyway. Of course, I can't say with 100% certainty why this is, but I feel like the forums would be better if the admins actually could have some kind of discourse when one of you does something completely arbitrary. The way I see it now, DG does whatever she wants and you back her up no matter what it is.

I don't think 8-year old kids ever entered either of your minds when you took action on the initial thread, or threatened action on this thread. DG deleted that thread because it offended her. She didn't want guys talking about women that way on her forum. But you can't tell me that the things that have been said about gays ever since Xog came back aren't much harsher than what Money was saying about women. If my eight-year-old learned the word faggot, I'd be much more upset than if he learned the word pussy. I feel like most parents that aren't from Alabama would feel the same way.

Facetious droppin science on the masses. That was a really good read, as have been all of your posts in this thread.


Before continuing with my post, I'm going to preface it with a few clarifiers:

1. I'm not trying to pile more dissent onto Rudy and DG. I realize it's a hard and thankless job to control this many young, sarcastic, intelligent (with only a few exceptions), and OPINIONATED people. Both have made definite sacrifices to try and contribute to the community.

2. I honestly believe Face is right-on-the-money---Rudy was just trying to back up DG's decision, and regardless of what the rules specifically say, DG was offended by the pussy post and made an emotionally-based judgment call and deleted a thread (something that has RARELY been done here).

3. LB is correct in pointing out how it's a tactical mistake to publicly make a hollow ban threat over a non-rule. Even if the goal of that hollow threat is to trick the gross violators into hanging themselves with the extra rope you just gave them, the Admins are still not making their position clear---which will undermine their credibility with the "good" forum users that we want to retain, and keep actively contributing here. They are the LAST demographic that you should want to disillusion by appearing weak or unfair to.

4. Since it's been made abundantly clear that the TW Forums are NOT a democracy and Forum Admins can do whatever they please, this adds further evidence that the Sarien situation had far less to do with abuse than internal politics. He was one of the few qualified people who actually wanted the job---and he gets publicly embarrassed him for his efforts? What a travesty.



Having said that:

I sincerely mean no disrespect by this, but as talented as DG and Rudy are in many other areas, this community would benefit if they were to improve their diplomatic skills. It definitely spotlights how underrated ZeUs!! was---he was the perfect mix of the handshake and the hammer. I regret not having appreciated how good he was at running our little mental asylum until he retired.

If I could make a humble suggestion to the powers that be: Please take greater interest in preventing these types of situations BEFORE they happen, instead of waiting until things are already out of control. You have the ability to lock threads so the handful of users who take great pleasure in stirring up shit don't get any momentum going when their threads are obviously nothing but trolling. You guys have the power to move threads to Useless Crap and Trash Talk. And honestly, this shouldn't become one of those "World" vs "Admin" forum environments. That's what I mean by the handshake and the hammer---you will gain a lot more loyalty, respect and support if you are a regular part of this community, instead of just coming around when you need to close a thread or ban someone.

[gran guerrero]

Look I sound smart too if I type like this