ITT: Religion

[Galleleo]

So because you met God once and he told you that, it's ok for you to be a complete dickwad and arsehole to anyone? It's ok to be a blatant hypocrite but just shove off all blame on others?

When I was talking with God 2 weeks ago, he was telling me that he was fucking with you, there is a hell, no Devil though, no, God commands both Heaven and Hell, and yes he is holding a special place warm for you down there heaven.

[HeavenSent]

I don't believe in religion as a requirement to salvation.
I believe a person's consciousness convicts self of sin.
I don't follow the rules of organized religion.
I don't believe all sins as sins towards God.
I belong to a denomination of one; me.
I write my own creed.
I trust no one but my heart's interpretation of the Word.
..and it's human nature:
Rom:7:19: For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
..Thank God this world is vanity so I can:
Prov:3:5: Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
..So it doesn't bother me when:
Mt:10:22: ..ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

My initial, life-changing encounter with God assured me that hell is not in my future. My studies have shown me that Hell, like the TAX LAW, does not exist.

[AFPilot]

I believe Jesus did exist, have I ever seen him in person? No. But there is proof of him existing.

Such as...?

[AFPilot]

People are capable of believing anything based on faith. They can borrow from one religion without accepting the whole thing. This happens all the time and Christianity is guilty of it, too.

[Galleleo]

It absolutely is religion, have you ever seen the Big Bang? No. Have I physically seen God? No. For me to be a Christian and believe in God's existence, it must take faith. For someone to be in support of the Big Bang and believe in it's existence, it must take faith. I believe God created the world. You believe Big Bang created the world. Sounds like a religion to me.

Wrong, there is somewhat evidence for the big bang which makes it far more likely then God creating it. Thus it doesn't take as much faith.

Next to that, people don't devout and live their lives according to the big bang, it's just a theory some people think that happened to create the universe as we know it right now. It is something completely different from religion.

I believe Jesus did exist, have I ever seen him in person? No. But there is proof of him existing. This however does not mean I believe in the religious aspect of Jesus, I do not believe he cured people or walked on water, I do not believe he died for our sins. All I think that happened was that he had a big mouth, some followers and he ended up being crucified.

Just to clarify: Not having seen something, but still believing it doesn't mean it's religion.

[AFPilot]

I have no clue what came before the big bang.

This person appears to be spamming this forum with religious threads. One at a time is enough for one poster, IMO, especially when it seems mostly as a setup for him to demonstrate his faith with posts that are irrelevant to the discussion.

[Blueblaze]

The big-bang has nothing to do with religion, stop clinging the two together Blueblaze you fat fuck.

It absolutely is religion, have you ever seen the Big Bang? No. Have I physically seen God? No. For me to be a Christian and believe in God's existence, it must take faith. For someone to be in support of the Big Bang and believe in it's existence, it must take faith. I believe God created the world. You believe Big Bang created the world. Sounds like a religion to me.

I'm happy that you can look past what I can't and see a being full of love...It's just that I can't ignore all the problems of this world and give myself fully to someone that watches us like an antfarm, asking our obedience when he refuses to give us respect. That doesn't fly with me, but I'm glad it works for you.

Do you realize how active God is in today's world? He doesn't sit in Heaven inactively waiting for the day He's going to return and then start things back. Did you know that everyone who receives Christ, must be convicted of their sin first, and that conviction doesn't come within the heart, but comes from the Holy Spirit (God) Himself. As well, the Holy Spirit actively guides every believer who doesn't reject His work. I know the Holy Spirit has actively done so much in my life. Through His work and conviction, I have forsaken swearing, conquered lustful and pornographic desires, physically dangerous and uncontrollable anger, and absolute laziness and irresponsibility. This is not a work that I have done, as there is none good within myself, but it is the Holy Spirit that dwells within me and actively works to sanctify me to Christ, to change me into His image. That is one active God indeed. Take away the action God has done in my life, and I'm probably a washed up drug addict seeking after the lusts of my heart. God has actively protected me from so much; without Christ, I fall under peer pressure so easily and I turn into the image of Satan. What a work Christ has done in my life, not of my power, but of God's, and that same work is possible for you if you embrace the work of Jesus Christ to His glory and grace.

[Troll King]

What is it about me in particular that gets you? It can't be anything about your daughter, because I'm not one of those people who are saying bad things about her, and that's the only other thing that seems to get to you more than I seem to.

[Galleleo]

Seriously if you see how heavensent talks on these forums you sometimes really doubt if his beliefs are real.. and if they are, you just know how big of a hypocrite he really is. Being all God is awesome on the one side and then all that crap on the other side..

BTW, I talk to God once a week, I discuss with him how I disagree with the bible and religion and all that other crap. And lately he has been agreeing with me. He even told me that the bible did not come from him, nor was it his idea. In fact, he read the bible twice and he thinks it's quite a shitty book and he is baffled as to why it is sold so much.

Also, he told me he did not take his son to him and he did not make him die for our sins. In fact, he had nothing to do with the death of Jesus, he just had to big of a mouth and it was his own fault he died. Personally I blame the way he dressed and the people he associated it, I mean he was just asking for it.

God is a pretty cool guy once you get to know him, and he really doesn't do anything regarding earth, he just watches it from time to time, as a real life soap. Last he told me, he was busy with Saturn, he is going to make some changes there. Ow, and he has to fix to boiler on the sun, lately it has just been broken and the sun is giving off to much heat, so he is gonna dial that down a bit.

[Pummel]

Blueblaze> Hi I suck at continuum so I wander forums spreading a religious message that noone gives a fuck about. Why do you hate me?

[Pummel]

The big-bang has nothing to do with religion, stop clinging the two together Blueblaze you fat fuck.

[Blueblaze]

Gladly.

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -Stephen Roberts

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -Stephen Roberts

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -Stephen Roberts

I contend that we are both theists, I believe that there is a God, and you will as well after you die.

[HeavenSent]

All of this plagiarism talk isn't the whole point anyway. The real issue is that you're regurgitating information that isn't really coming directly from you to an audience that doesn't really want to hear it. The combination means that there is little actual discussion going on.

Take it from TROLL KING... HE'S THE GOD DAMN (self-proclaimed)KING OF TROLLERS

[HeavenSent]

Okay, I'm finished talking with you Heavensent.

At least Blueblaze replied respectfully....Though I don't agree.

You mask the fact that you don't have very good answers with lame and hardly witty, yet wholly disrespectful comebacks. I was simply trying to give a basis of why I believe what I do, and you couldn't help but take it personally.

So go ahead, make me a bad guy. At least I'm not running around being pissed off at people that don't agree with me.

I could give a fuck if you or anyone agrees with me.. What set me off with you was your initial snap of disrespect & hypocrisy... and ignorance.. (thinking i was the one pushing to take the bible literally) Dork. I dis'd you because you dis'd me first. So maybe next time, you will put forth the same energy you're willing to receive... Because I gave you the same friggin' energy you gave me. Deal with it.

[HeavenSent]

I ate a rotten banana once, I gained the knowledge that I shouldn't eat rotten bananas.

I can accept that ^-^