Proud Parent

[Facetious]

Wait, why do you think the materials being sent to you from that Christian school aren't a part of one of the four dominions of Satan or whatever?

[HeavenSent]

Wait, why do you think the materials being sent to you from that Christian school aren't a part of one of the four dominions of Satan or whatever?

That's a good question.
Some of it is, but it's just a little bit which is common knowledge with students everywhere. This would be stuff like in the way we interpret history. The other main course studies (i.e. math & science) are fairly neutral. The thing about public schools are the way some pry into the child's personal life and encourage the child to rat on their parents. Or impose some kind of medical perscription for hyper children. Or take the liberty to introduce highly sensitive topics in which they have no business doing... like sexuality...

[Facetious]

I can certainly say that no public school I went to did any of those things. They taught sex ed but it was the most basic shit ever and you could easily opt out of it.

[HeavenSent]

That's not the way it is around here

[Pandagirl!]

Our sex ed was abstinence only. The instructor didn't even know what a female condom was. It was pretty much a joke.

[Spider]

I remember we had this really fucking smart kid in my class in 6th grade, and he was reading books about 17th century architecture and really boring shit. He was a nice kid. After 6th grade I didn't see him much, but I went to the new semester of school and there this motherfucker is in my War history class. And now I see him everywhere.

This story had no relevance, but I thought it was funny.

I agree, that was funny.

I don't really understand how they determine your relative grade but I recall being told I was years ahead of the curve too. I'm pretty sure it evens itself out over time. It's still better than being behind obviously but it doesn't mean that when she is 16 she will still be years ahead. That makes sense, right? I mean, a high school grad who knows more than someone with a Masters in something? Not very likely. I'm pretty sure it's more skewed at a younger age.

I also don't see a problem with public school. It allows children who want to achieve do so. You find your own niche and friends and go from there. If you join the Chess club, study for all your tests, and befriend the people who love science and math you will turn out be a smart person. At least in my part of the world. Or you can decide to hang out with kids that smoke weed and grow up to be a dumbass who may or may not think (s)he is smart.

You could argue it is risky but I don't think so, there are risks everywhere. Your kid might run into a bad crowd socializing at this park. The only place that is probably beneficial is an expensive private school. If home schooling was the way to go the rich people would higher someone to home school their kid. It wouldn't need to be a teacher it could be a college student. It's not hard after all, right? They packages or whatever are designed so anyone can do it.

In fact the only thing, according to what I've read, that makes a child who went to private school more successful is the networking. It's a mechanism that allows the rich people to know who the children of the other rich people are so they can ensure those families remain rich. Then its up to the rest of us honest folk to fight over the few remaining spots at mommy or daddys firm. This is something I read in actual academic study. It wasn't originally written by a socialist so he used different words like "socilization" but the point was the same.

All of that is in reply to the various people who posted here. Nothing, obviously, changes the fact that the little girl is a smartie pants, which I think is a great thing.

[Twerp]

Our child has consistantly kept ahead of her peers on her finals. In other words, she's always been a year ahead in her studies of kids her age.

Orly?

[paradise!]

For math, she got as far as adding & subtracting fractions. She'll be starting algebra next.

lol. your skipping alot. im teaching my smaller brother some pre-algebra, hes in 5th grade right now. He understands it real well, but u cant go from fractions to algebra and graphing too big a step. I suggest multiplying and dividing fractions then to integers then one step equations with a variable then to multi step ones. then x on both sides. then beginning graphing. which eventually leads to slopes and functions and then so on.

[HeavenSent]

I'm pretty sure it evens itself out over time. It's still better than being behind obviously but it doesn't mean that when she is 16 she will still be years ahead. That makes sense, right? I mean, a high school grad who knows more than someone with a Masters in something? Not very likely. I'm pretty sure it's more skewed at a younger age.

It's not hard after all, right? They packages or whatever are designed so anyone can do it.

In fact the only thing, according to what I've read, that makes a child who went to private school more successful is the networking.

All of that is in reply to the various people who posted here. Nothing, obviously, changes the fact that the little girl is a smartie pants, which I think is a great thing.

I love the way you think :wub:
& i agree with most of what you've said. ^-^

[HeavenSent]

lol. your skipping alot. im teaching my smaller brother some pre-algebra, hes in 5th grade right now. He understands it real well, but u cant go from fractions to algebra and graphing too big a step. I suggest multiplying and dividing fractions then to integers then one step equations with a variable then to multi step ones. then x on both sides. then beginning graphing. which eventually leads to slopes and functions and then so on.

I didn't mean to imply we were gonna skip everything in between. I was just looking over her math book for 5th grade and saw that she'll be doing algebra before the year's done.
There are no short-cuts in learning math properly... it's progressive knowledge.

[Epinephrine]

I was doing some thinking and I may have an idea of how they determine the '11th grade level reading'.

I believe it's like this:

They have standardized scores for each question set, which is set for each grade.

So you have the grade 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, .... sets.

Then you have the average scores for each test.

Then using these scores, and the relative 'hardness' of each set of questions, they extrapolate how well the 'average' person in each grade would do the questions in other grades. Or perhaps they just make a bunch of 10th graders do a grade 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ... test and get those averages.

Then you compare.

So for instance, if you got 50% on the grade 4 test, you are at the grade 4 level. If you got 75% on it, they realize that the average grade 5 student gets that, so you are at the grade 5 level.

This is sort of a parabola, so when you get to the high numbers, it makes less and less sense. For instance, if you got 99.1% maybe it makes you are at grade 8 level. If you got 99.6% it means you are at a grade 12 level. At the end, it really doesn't matter. Because statistically an average grade 12 student would be able to do a grade 4 test and get every question right, but then again an average grade 7 student would probably be able to too.

So the test doesn't exactly say that the child is now 'doing math at a grade 10 level' or 'reading at a grade 9 level', it just means that if the average grade 10 or 9 student were to do that particular math or reading test, they'd get the same mark.

So in the end the results don't say that Heavensent's daughter can read what your average grade 10 student reads and understands it to the same level... BUT if the grade 10 student were to do the same test as she did, they'd get the same results (and since she got 99, I assume that means she got them all right except for the 1 question they randomly put in that was just accidentally WAAAY too hard, or maybe she got perfect and the results don't show 100, or maybe after bell curving the test she got the highest mark possible).

[Nickname]

for the record panda, the female condom is a joke

[AcidBomber]

holy smokes o.O you and WPE must be awesome home-schooling-parents =O


Grats! ^^... smart girl!

[Cops]

Let me have a night with her and we'll sort this out.

that was just rude.

[Cops]

I was doing some thinking and I may have an idea of how they determine the '11th grade level reading'.

I believe it's like this:

They have standardized scores for each question set, which is set for each grade.

So you have the grade 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, .... sets.

Then you have the average scores for each test.

Then using these scores, and the relative 'hardness' of each set of questions, they extrapolate how well the 'average' person in each grade would do the questions in other grades. Or perhaps they just make a bunch of 10th graders do a grade 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ... test and get those averages.

Then you compare.

So for instance, if you got 50% on the grade 4 test, you are at the grade 4 level. If you got 75% on it, they realize that the average grade 5 student gets that, so you are at the grade 5 level.

This is sort of a parabola, so when you get to the high numbers, it makes less and less sense. For instance, if you got 99.1% maybe it makes you are at grade 8 level. If you got 99.6% it means you are at a grade 12 level. At the end, it really doesn't matter. Because statistically an average grade 12 student would be able to do a grade 4 test and get every question right, but then again an average grade 7 student would probably be able to too.

So the test doesn't exactly say that the child is now 'doing math at a grade 10 level' or 'reading at a grade 9 level', it just means that if the average grade 10 or 9 student were to do that particular math or reading test, they'd get the same mark.

So in the end the results don't say that Heavensent's daughter can read what your average grade 10 student reads and understands it to the same level... BUT if the grade 10 student were to do the same test as she did, they'd get the same results (and since she got 99, I assume that means she got them all right except for the 1 question they randomly put in that was just accidentally WAAAY too hard, or maybe she got perfect and the results don't show 100, or maybe after bell curving the test she got the highest mark possible).

Probably the best post of this thread. I highly doubt that a 10 year old can read and fully understand books like 1984 or The Great Gatsby. I have no doubt she can read the books but does she understand the concepts, which to me seem a bit challenging for most grade 10 to 11's.

I'm not going to accuse Heavensent or WPE of "over assisting" their child but teachers are trained to not give too much information or assistance during tests but it seems like a parent might assist their child more than a teacher would.