University of Florida Police Brutality

[Money]

http://dtmbkombat.ytmnd.com/

[Facetious]

Plz nobody delete vyks post ahhaha

post of the yar for sure

[GuruMeditation]

Make a joke, make a joke, will you DoTheFandango?

[Ephemeral]

Since it is a state organization, using tax dollar money, pressure can be applied by those concerned about Uni police through political means (call your congressman).

In a private situation, like a private Uni, club or some other organization, suck it up. Nothing can be done about who they hire for security. Only choice is to not support them by attending.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

I DON'T WANNA DIEEEEEEEEEEE
I SOMETIMES WISH I'D NEVER BEEN TASED AT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL

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I lost it at this point.

[Kolar]

Taken from "Florida Police Followed Guidelines in Campus Taser Incident," published in the Orlando Sentinel.

Wiki:
Some TASER devices, particularly those used by police departments, also have a "Drive Stun" capability, where the taser is held against the target without firing barbs and is intended to cause pain without incapacitating the target. TASER defines "Drive Stun" as "the process of using the EMD weapon as a pain compliance technique. This is done by activating the EMD and placing it against an individual’s body. This can be done without an air cartridge in place or after an air cartridge has been deployed.".


Taser International which produces these weapons does not give any guidelines on how they are to be used or when use of force is deemed necessary or appropriate for it to be used. It has stated though that police should be cautious and mindful of how and when they use the drive stun mode because A: It doesn't incapacitate the target, often instigating or exacerbating an existing confrontation and B: it can lead to excessive use of force putting the company and police forces at legal risk.
I am all for it being used against dangerous suspects who are in the process of being arrested. A douche on the floor with 5 cops on top of him does not constitute a reasonable threat to these "officers". Pain compliance is wrong.

Police have no place on campuses. These "officers" should not have been moderating the Q&A to begin with.

[Vykromond]

is this the real life
is this just fantasy
caught in a press conference
no escape from john kerry
open your eyes
look up to the lectern and see
i'm just a poor boy, i need no sympathy
because i'm on youtube, on youtube
many views, many views
any way the rating goes, doesn't really matter to me...





to me



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police chief




just tased a man

put a taser to his head
pulled the taser-trigger-button-thing (how do tasers work? i really don't know...) now he's unconscious
police chief, his lengthy and inane question about skull and bones had just begun
BUT NOW I'VE GONE AANND THROWN IT ALLLLLL AWAYYYYYY


POLICE CHIEFFFFFF
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


didn't mean to make you cry
if i'm not back again this time tomorrow
carry oooon
carry oooooon
but remember to pay my pension


~


TOO LATE
my time has come
sends shivers down my spine (from the electricity)
body's aching for the duration of the 2.1 mA average charge delivered at 19 pulses of 100 microseconds per pulse per second[1]
goodbye everybody
i've gooot to gooooo
gotta leaaaave you all behiiiind and faaaaace misdemeanor chaaargeeeeees

INTERNET
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (any way the tase goes)

I DON'T WANNA DIEEEEEEEEEEE
I SOMETIMES WISH I'D NEVER BEEN TASED AT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL

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[1]Statistic taken from the specification for the TASER x26

[stark]

Meyer was shocked with a Taser after event organizers asked police to remove him when he continued to heckle the senator and struggled repeatedly with officers trying to remove him from a university auditorium.

He was charged with resisting an officer with violence, a felony, and disturbing the peace by interfering with school administration functions, a misdemeanor.

University Police Lt. Alton McDilda, who runs the department's training program, said force guidelines are based on a suspect's behavior.

"You have to have some threat of danger to the officer of possible violence," McDilda said. "The officer-subject ratio is always taken into consideration and the size and ability of the subject."

The department's 18-page use of force policy is similar to others around the state, including the Orlando Police Department and Orange County Sheriff's Office. In situations where a person is displaying "active physical resistance" - evasive movements or pushing or pulling away from an officer - use of a baton, chemical spray or Taser is permitted.

A video of the event shows Meyer forcibly being led from a microphone in the audience and walked to the back of the auditorium. There, he breaks free from officers pushes away, then falls with officers to the ground. As he repeatedly asks, "What did I do wrong?" he struggles and kicks, according to an arrest report.

At one point, he is warned to stop resisting or he will be Tasered. Sgt. Eddie King instructed Officer Nicole Mallo to stun Meyer after repeatedly being unable to handcuff both his hands, the report states.

"Under those facts, the use of a Taser is totally reasonable," said Geoffrey Alpert, a University of South Carolina criminal justice professor who is conducting a study for the Justice Department's National Institute of Justice on Tasers.

Orange County Sheriff's Capt. David Ogden, a use of force expert with three martial arts black belts, said the Gainesville incident appeared to be a "textbook," justified use. Tasers, he said, prevent further injury to officers and suspects.

"Use of force isn't pretty," said Ogden. "Nobody doesn't say the Taser doesn't hurt. But the second it's done, it's done."

Taken from "Florida Police Followed Guidelines in Campus Taser Incident," published in the Orlando Sentinel.



kthx

[Money]

I still don't see how anyone could not be amazed at the stupidity of the police to taze that guy in front of so many cameras. Obviously police brutality isn't news, but I do think this is further proof that school police should have no weapons of any kind, nor any authority to lay their hands on anybody. In my opinion, having faith in school police got people killed at Virginia Tech, and looking at THESE school police, clearly, that wake-up call didn't shake up the UF police force at all. To me, that's the story here.

a cop with no weapons? oh u mean a fucking security officer...come on dude..get real

[Cops]

this is equivalent to the time in college my buddy got hammered and demanded to get maced by this girl we knew that had mace just so he could "experience it". he also thought having one of us take a bunch of pictures would be funny, too.

at the time he thought it would be a funny attention-getter, but now he is forever the guy recognized at big social functions by complete strangers as "oh yeah, weren't you the guy that got maced? i saw those pictures! that was hilarious!" or "seriously...why would you ever want to do that?"

I'd rather be the guy who got maced than the guy who fucked a girl under a bridge. I've heard more troll sex jokes than all this forum combined.

[Facetious]

I still don't see how anyone could not be amazed at the stupidity of the police to taze that guy in front of so many cameras. Obviously police brutality isn't news, but I do think this is further proof that school police should have no weapons of any kind, nor any authority to lay their hands on anybody. In my opinion, having faith in school police got people killed at Virginia Tech, and looking at THESE school police, clearly, that wake-up call didn't shake up the UF police force at all. To me, that's the story here.

[Reclusion]

I guess this means I'll refrain from using hyperbole when I type anything in the future.

[genocidal]

I never said the police went crazy - in fact I never used that word to describe anything in this thread. I said they went over the line. Getting knocked unconscious is non-lethal but I don't think cops should be able to do it to some pussy kid just because he's screaming like a bitch. Police brutality is police brutality and people don't have to be hospitalized in order for it to count.

Reclusion: You apparently didn't read my posts. I even explained why I was making fun of Europeans - and God knows I hate explaining myself.

[stark]

In the case of this kid in Florida, HE BROKE THE RULES. The tazing sucked, but he shouldn't have flailed about like a 12-year-old girl. It's not hard to ask one question and go on. It's not hard to ask his one question in a civil manner. It's not hard to refrain from being a giant douche bag in front of a room of people... at least it's not hard for everyone but Andrew Meyer. He was asked to leave the room. Instead he just left his dignity, urine, and a cry of "DON'T TAZE ME BRO!"

Oddly enough, 12 year old girls do flail in a very similar fasion when I try to sit on them.


Anyways, this isn't a mystery, Gen, there's nothing to be solved. He acted like a douche, which can be said in a variety of different ways in which to describe his immature resistance to the primary form of civil control in a crowded forum with a very popular presidential canidate. The fact that douche-baggery is our primary term in labeling this particular individual is irrelevant.


And I've already given my two cents about the federal guidelines (though I realize that it may differ from Florda's state laws) and how they compare to this event, in which case the use of a taser would have been justified... I don't think, in any way, shape, or form did they "go crazy," rec... they may have been a bit antsy in their pantsy, but crazy is entirely too outrageous of a word... It's not like they shot him... or Rodney King'd him.... They applied non-lethal force to an individual, potentially dangerous, resisting arrest in a crowded room.

[Reclusion]

I really don't get it. Virtually every person has commented on the incident by saying, "The guy was a douche." Do you think you're Sherlock fucking Holmes uncovering the case of the tased bitchy kid? Anyone with an eye and an ear can see that he's a douche and a half - but that has absolutely NOTHING to do with anything. He could be up there spouting Skitzo's theories on racial disparities and it wouldn't make shit to what is at issue.

The police were out of order, too. It just seems like a lot of people are going on about how America is becoming a "police tazing state" for no other reason than it's the in thing to do right now. Sadly enough, police brutality has been something the country's had to deal with for a while now. The pseudo-cops obviously went crazy. But there are many other more telling signs that America is spiraling a bit. Some clown trying to push some cops isn't one of them.

And with all due respect, most of the posts I've seen you make in this thread have been along the lines of "TAZING IS BAD" or "EUROPEANS ARE DUMB". Not exactly Holmsian observations either.