Canada VS America

[Cops]

I live in Mississauga, I've also lived in Oakville, Georgetown, Brampton and many other places around Toronto and no if I walk through the streets of any of these cities I NEVER hear anyone speaking French, there might be schools or institutions that have French courses such as U of T but they are more geared towards teaching you 'real French'.

I understand what a dialect is, I also understand that if a language is completely different than it's originator that it can become almost impossible for a person who speaks the 'real' language to understand what the person is talking about. Like you said we can modify our language when we go to France. Dialect has primarily to do with accents, the language is spoken and taught different, it warrants enough cause in my own head to be completely different from what's spoken in France.

If you knew anything about me you'd know I don't care just about money, I think it's important when it comes to how we spend it as a country.

Basically you've dropped a bunch of wikipedia pages to support your theory that there is no English speaking individuals inside Quebec, that is of course unless they recently immigrated, right?

[Cops]

No, you can do all those in over 3 provinces, I've stated multiple times, french IS spoken outside Quebec. It has special status in Ontario, and is an official language along with English in New Brunswick. You can also work on an international level, not necessarily restricted to Canada.

If I wanted to study abroad I'd have to tweak my French to the point that it's almost not worth knowing.

You'd be surprised at how many people do speak French in Ontario, and Toronto itself has a fair sized french-speaking community. If there weren't, why would there be colleges, lycees, theaters, schools offered uniquely in French? (1, 2)

Because I live in Ontario and I'm completely oblivious to the lack of French that is used in my daily life.

Yes, I used America as an example of where you could potentially move away.

not only move away, but somewhere I could go if all I cared about was money

Google makes this easy
The first sentence, which reads
"Les Français sont maintenant plus enclins à encourager leurs nouveaux «produits» locaux "
translates as "The French are now more inclined to encourage their new local 'products'"
The article later discusses not only popular singers trying to make their way into the French media, but it discusses the problems between the relationship France has with other things (such as Canada). Pass it through google translator to more or less understand the article's gist.

You quoted canoe.ca , at least I'm claiming what I believe to be right an opinion instead of passing it off as a fact with shitty sources.

So basically Quebec singers have barriers getting attention inside France? And this excuse or article is used to justify why their media is more internal than Canada's? I do not give a flying fuck that a French Canadian has no market in France, it's also a piss poor excuse to explain why their media isn't as external as ours

[Cops]

Furthermore Canoe.ca, wow. An online website based around Quebec is going to prove why Quebec singers have a tough time outside of Quebec, can I claim that this article might be bias now or after I try to translate this? I also like how there's no sources listed, if you're going to come at me with canoe.ca articles to prove why France's media is more internal than ours than you need to attend a University, maybe three. You cannot prove that 'their media revolves around France'.

I don't mind wiki by the way but don't drop links and say 'this proves everything i've been saying', use facts and statics from wiki and then maybe source it and see if it's actually credible? When you can do all this we'll start talking about facts until then start your posts of by saying 'in my honest opinion'.

[Cops]

Here's a plausible idea for why French-Canadian singers don't integrate well in the French music scenes, when they sing it sounds awful to someone in France. This isn't about their media revolving completely around them it's about two languages that differ from each other, a person in France probably wont go out and buy a CD from an inside Quebec because they're from Quebec they probably don't but their CD because it sounds completely foreign to them. If you can prove to me that France's media revolves completely around them then I'll let this go, but you can't prove that.

[Hakaku]

If you wanted to study abroad, your accent won't be an impassible wall. Have you ever been to France? If not, then you're just claiming more things than knowing by trying.

And because you live in Ontario, doesn't mean that you're forcebly confronted with French people every second of your life. I live in the capital, Ottawa, and I necessarily do confront with people of many languages often, but most notably English and French (at school, outside, at work...).

And yes, somewhere you could move away if all you cared about was money. I'll take note that, since you don't understand what an example is, next time I'll use mexico, or maybe Antarctica just to be on the safe side.

You asked me to cite what I was talking about, I originally was talking about singers as an example, but it's not limited to music. French Canadian cinema
Movies and music are some of the quickest ways to listen to other people and other cultures.
If you prefer a historical appeal: reasons and answers, then this website may be of interest.

If you don't care, don't ask me to cite things for you. Do your own independant research with references and prove me wrong on every point instead of criticizing everything I write.

[Cops]

French movies have little to no market inside Toronto, if they did I would have seen ONE playing at my cinema over the PAST FOUR YEARS. Toronto's music station has an hour a week dedicated to French singers, it's basically on at a dead hour. But I can see how I've been completely missing this rich and lively culture that surrounds me.

I don't disagree that there is cinemas and venues that play French artists but they have no place in the mainstream, and that is not because I don't want them there but there is no market for a French film to be played at a Cineplex in downtown Toronto nor in any other city across the GTA.

[Cops]

And yes, somewhere you could move away if all you cared about was money. I'll take note that, since you don't understand what an example is, next time I'll use mexico, or maybe Antarctica just to be on the safe side.

You used a terrible example and made it sound ignorant towards American's view of money. that wasn't my bad, that was your bad on the crappy example, and I called you on it.

[Hakaku]

Ok, but I wasn't talking about French media in Toronto. If you really want French movies and cinema, then you'd have to either turn on your television and change it to something like TQS, TVA, Radio-Canada... Or, you'd actually have to go to a French cinema (such as StarCité), which there probably aren't any near Toronto. There are however french theatres (like this), where you could attend plays and comedies in french.

As for the radio, there's more than one station. I'm not in Toronto, so I can't tell you what station to listen to, but I'm sure there are some.
And I agree, there isn't a huge market to exploit in some areas, but it doesn't automatically mean there's no one who speaks french there.
And to be honest, even people who are french (at least this is true especially in Ontario) tend to prefer English music; it's a choice we make.

On a random note, Bon Cop, Bad Cop, was a fully bilingual Ontarian movie, which appeared in nearly all theatres in Ontario and Quebec. (good movie too, but might be difficult to grasp some ideas)

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[Cops]

On a random note, Bon Cop, Bad Cop, was a fully bilingual Ontarian movie, which appeared in nearly all theatres in Ontario and Quebec. (good movie too, but might be difficult to grasp some ideas)

Now you're just being a mouthy cunt, this film is about two cops, there's also enough English in this movie for people to actually watch it (it's pretty much all in English). If you want to talk about some movies that are hard to grasp or understand at least refrence a movie that isn't about two pigs who have completly opposite personanlity's.

The English version of the movie was only avaibale in Toronto and the GTA, it basically was a French movie that was modified into English so people would actually watch it. The movie follows a basic story line plot, it was nothing out of the ordinary. If you want to talk about a hard film to grasp you might want to use better examples, maybe something more creative or deals with issues bigger than two cops from two parts of Canada. It's not even like the film did a good job to look at the cultural differences of both people, it basically just played off on stereotypes.

[GuruMeditation]

what's with this forum and its fucking "USA (aka fags) vs. Everyone Else" approach to threads.

We already know we suck people, leave us the fuck alone.

No, we suck more.

(can't leave a statement like that hanging out there without some retort)

[Hakaku]

Now you're just being a mouthy cunt, this film is about two cops, there's also enough English in this movie for people to actually watch it (it's pretty much all in English). If you want to talk about some movies that are hard to grasp or understand at least refrence a movie that isn't about two pigs who have completly opposite personanlity's.

The English version of the movie was only avaibale in Toronto and the GTA, it basically was a French movie that was modified into English so people would actually watch it. The movie follows a basic story line plot, it was nothing out of the ordinary. If you want to talk about a hard film to grasp you might want to use better examples, maybe something more creative or deals with issues bigger than two cops from two parts of Canada. It's not even like the film did a good job to look at the cultural differences of both people, it basically just played off on stereotypes.

Wow, you seriously can't talk without swearing every moment of your life can you?
Bon Cop Bad Cop was a bilingual movie, that is, a mixture of English and French [with additional subtitles depending on your location]. It's based on humour, and some of the (french) humour is best understood by French Canadians. -- I had an exchange student watch the movie with me, she didn't understand a lot of the humour, which is why I say it might be difficult to grasp some of the ideas.

You said there hasn't been a single French movie in theatres in 4 years where you live, so I mentioned BCBC (even if it's not entirely in French), because it was displayed in Theatres here.


Anyhow, I'm done. You don't understand examples, you only swear, you can't provide your own examples, and you can't make decent conversation. You can spazz out all you want now.

[Money]

im gonna end this thread right here



FRENCH PPL SUCK


FRENCH CANADIANS ARE FUCK UPS FROM FRANCE WHO COULDNT CUT IT



ALL FRENCH PPL CANADIAN FRENCH INCLUDED ARE FAGGOTS.