American Elections '08

[genocidal]

In-state about $3000 tuition and out of state around $15-20,000 per semester.

[Cops]

I should have rephrased what I said, school would cost me $5000-6000 if I wasn't on a four year scholarship. I must maintain a 3.5 cumulative GPA or it's gone. I'm currently on year one and my average is already becoming fucking tough to keep up.

What would it cost a person who didn't receive any type of assistance to attend your school gen?

[genocidal]

I wish I had the answers for you but I don't, I can only poke fun at the jerome point of view on capitalism and the lack of concern 'for their countrymen'. You can also add personal debt on top of that, most people have student debt, credit card debt, loans, etc.

School roughly costs me $5000-6000 per year, I was looking at doing a year or two in America possibly in Buffalo and the costs were 15-20k a year. There was a lot of discounts for Canadian students primarily because it's just across the border so there's a lot of commuters and Canadian students in Buffalo but it was still an ass rapeing amount of money.

A degree costs me anywhere from 20-25k, it will cost me about 50k in America How do you guys in America afford these rates? Is it a lot cheaper than what I'm looking at or is it like getting double teamed by two long polls?

Well first of all our taxes are lower so we have more disposable income (or should I say discretionary income). Second of all, there are many ways to cut down on costs (e.g. scholarships, student-work programs, etc.). I go to a major university but I haven't paid $1 in tuition in my four years. It's a damn good thing too because grad school is going to be expensive.

[Cops]

what a dirty word, bundlers.

[Vatican Assassin]

obama now has over 300 "bundlers." a nice way of remaining "lobbyist free" is to not receive donations from businesses directly through their lobbyists, but to get one "bundler" from the company to get money from his/her associates. so instead of getting the money from the business, you get it from its employees and bundle it into one huge package.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/po..._bundlers.html

[Cops]

self correcting maybe, but without a proper social system (and that's why I am asking how it works) a lot of people who lose their jobs in a recession (Michigan?) will have some big problems, combined with the people in trouble with the whole house market thing and the fact that most Americans apparently don't save money as much...

I wish I had the answers for you but I don't, I can only poke fun at the jerome point of view on capitalism and the lack of concern 'for their countrymen'. You can also add personal debt on top of that, most people have student debt, credit card debt, loans, etc.

School roughly costs me $5000-6000 per year, I was looking at doing a year or two in America possibly in Buffalo and the costs were 15-20k a year. There was a lot of discounts for Canadian students primarily because it's just across the border so there's a lot of commuters and Canadian students in Buffalo but it still is an ass rapeing amount of money.

A degree costs me anywhere from 20-25k, it will cost me about 50k in America How do you guys in America afford these rates? Is it a lot cheaper than what I'm looking at or is it like getting double teamed by two long polls?

[Galleleo]

From all I have seen/read/heard I definitely like Obama the best out of the candidates, though him getting into that bitchslap fest with Hillary in that CNN debate was not so smart of him. We will see on Saturday and Tuesday I guess. I am just really hoping Obama, or if not Edwards, gets it, cause I seriously think Hillary would be the downfall of the US.. or at least a somewhat down slope.

[Cops]

I know why Cops, but it was in reference to Vatican saying that Ron Paul was the ONLY one.. after saying that everyone hated Bush and Corrupt politicians. So I was asking if Obama did not at least come close to the same idea he gave of Paul.

Oh, my bad.

People want change, at least that's what I keep seeing and reading and quite honestly Ron Paul's not the one to do it, nor will he ever get a chance to do it. Obama has the ability to do the right thing and he's trying to do it.

[Galleleo]

self correcting maybe, but without a proper social system (and that's why I am asking how it works) a lot of people who lose their jobs in a recession (Michigan?) will have some big problems, combined with the people in trouble with the whole house market thing and the fact that most Americans apparently don't save money as much...

[Cops]

now, now galleleo the market is self correcting, and these are merely the leftovers of a capitalists society.

[Galleleo]

How is the social system in the US if you loose your job and stuff?

Cause if this dollar crash is gonna happen, and the social system doesn't really do anything for ya, you will get a lot of really poor people.

He wont allow lobbyists to give him money because he does not want them to 'influence' his decisions. Clinton takes tons of money and tells the public that she wont let this 'affect' her judgment. You decide who's the better candidate.

I know why Cops, but it was in reference to Vatican saying that Ron Paul was the ONLY one.. after saying that everyone hated Bush and Corrupt politicians. So I was asking if Obama did not at least come close to the same idea he gave of Paul.

EDIT: What the US could really use as a president (though I know its not possible) is someone not from the US, someone with a way different look on things than is the general idea amongst US politicians.

[Cops]

The Emancipation Proclamation?

As bad as some see the Republican Party, recent history of the Democrats was just as bad as some feel today about the Republican Party.

Just look at the so called Dixie-Crats as they called themselves in the Democratic Party. They preached segregation as well as 2nd class citizenship and voting rites only for certain people. Strom Thrumond was one of these jerks who was a Democrat/Dixie-Crat turned Republican in I think 1964.

At Thurmond's hundredth birthday party in December 2002, Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott was another elected idiot that praised Thurmond's 1948 candidacy for President under a strong segregation platform, leading to Lott's resignation.

Trent Lott is another Idiot in his own.



Both parties are horrible as are the candidates running. My take is if Hillary get's the nomination and McCain wins the GOP, look for the Obama people and independents to vote Republican for McCain.

Just my take...but regardless...both parties suck and all of these elected idiots are just that!

I was being sarcastic? Calling the liberal left wingers douchebags isn't putting them up on a pedestal, it's just recognizing that they tend to be a bit better than the current republican ass bags.

You're a fool if you think that there is a big difference between the Democrats and the Republicans.

You're pretty much right, as far as the current republicans and democrats go anyways.

Didn't Obama not accept any funding from the whole lobbyist thing, and doesn't he also want to end the war and bring the troops home?

He wont allow lobbyists to give him money because he does not want them to 'influence' his decisions. Clinton takes tons of money and tells the public that she wont let this 'affect' her judgment. You decide who's the better candidate.

[genocidal]

You're a fool if you think that there is a big difference between the Democrats and the Republicans.

[404 Not Found]

something a republican has done to help the average American? Hmmm

The Emancipation Proclamation?

As bad as some see the Republican Party, recent history of the Democrats was just as bad as some feel today about the Republican Party.

Just look at the so called Dixie-Crats as they called themselves in the Democratic Party. They preached segregation as well as 2nd class citizenship and voting rites only for certain people. Strom Thrumond was one of these jerks who was a Democrat/Dixie-Crat turned Republican in I think 1964.

At Thurmond's hundredth birthday party in December 2002, Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott was another elected idiot that praised Thurmond's 1948 candidacy for President under a strong segregation platform, leading to Lott's resignation.

Trent Lott is another Idiot in his own.

Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott helped lead a successful battle to prevent his college fraternity from admitting blacks to any of its chapters, in a little-known incident now four decades old. At a time when racial issues were roiling campuses across the South, some chapters of Sigma Nu fraternity in the Northeast were considering admitting African-American members, a move that would have sent a powerful statement through the tradition-bound world of sororities and fraternities. At the time, Lott was president of the intra-fraternity council at the University of Mississippi. When the issue came to a head at Sigma Nu's national convention — known as a "Grand Chapter" — in the early 1960s, "Trent was one of the strongest leaders in resisting the integration of the national fraternity in any of the chapters," recalls former CNN President Tom Johnson, then a Sigma Nu member at the University of Georgia.

Both parties are horrible as are the candidates running. My take is if Hillary get's the nomination and McCain wins the GOP, look for the Obama people and independents to vote Republican for McCain.

Just my take...but regardless...both parties suck and all of these elected idiots are just that!

[HeavenSent]

Russia did that to themselves. Learn history.

It was an ARMS RACE and America raced them right into bankruptcy. That's what ended it.