Workout Plan maybe??!?

[Singularity]

If you are eating protein everyday, and manage to get your vitamins from veg and fruit you just need calories. All the mumbo jumba about good and bad carbs is overrated in my opinion, within reason, just eat what you like as long as you make sure you know how much calories you get in roughly.
Sugars (all carbohydrates basically) have a habit of converting into the same substances in your body in the end, giving roughly the same amount of energy.
Some sugars take longer or are metabolized in different parts of the body, but calorie-wise it's all the same.

DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL FOOD SPECIALIST ^-^

[Cops]

breaking news about carbs

it gives your body energy, especially your brain, without carbs you will die. There's no such thing as bad carbs, you have 3 days to burn off any carbs in your body, if you eat three loafs of bread a day and wonder why your fat ass is getting bigger than you're a fucking moron.

Carbs turn to fat if you don't use them, this should be obvious. Starving yourself of carbs is stupid and really, really bad for you.

[Hercules]

okay, thanks for answering the question.

[Soul Survivor]

Most people who diet cut out carbs and you can't do that. Complex Carbohydrates help your body absorb protein.

(Ex) You have a steak by itself just say it's 30 grams of protein, without have a complex carbohydrate your body won't absorb 30 grams of protein(more like 11g)). So you need carbs.

[Cops]

low carb diets are for fat white people who eat six to seven mayo sandwiches a day. Realistically this will help to lose some weight if god forbid you eat six to seven mayo sandwiches a day, but otherwise it wont make a huge difference.

The best was McDonald's Low Carb Diet which included sandwiches minus the bun.... you're paying the same amount of money as you would for a sandwich with a bun. More to the point you honestly think this is going to help you lose weight?... You're fucking eating at McDonald's!

[RATTY...]

Too many people who doesn't know shit and tries to answer questions. There's some words that I write who is directly translated from norwegian, cause I'm not bothered to look it up.

So eating carbs is bad..?

Alright, im 5'10, about 171 lbs. I have a large frame, 155-165lbs is average for height.

I really dont have a lot of fat, im at 7.8 %... However I'm looking to drop about 10-15 lbs for cut, and also for MMA. Going by that scale, i can eat about 3000 calories a day if I wanted to stay the same way.. So I cut down to 2,000 calories intake. I work out every other day at the gym, with high backrow exercise, jogging, excessive low weight high rep for speed. I also work at fedex for 4 hours day which is moderate exercise.

I understand the 5-7 meals a day, in essentially 2 of those are protein shakes, one before going to sleep typically. I already eat about 5, consuming an egg white sandwich with a piece of ham and bread. (I think i mightbe going wrong on that one)..

What I have hard time understanding is bad carbs vs good carbs?? What kind of things are good carbs, what can I incorporate in a day.. any vegatable? any bread? (or just wheat bread) , what kind of pasta, etc etc


Looking for someone with more experience with Carbs, I dont understand them, please help me out.

Weight loss is not determined by carbs, but the balance between calories in and out. If you eat more than you burn, you'll gain. Less than you burn, you lose weight.

The good and bad carbs you're refering to use to be called slow (good) and fast (bad).

The slow carbs are better for the body because it releases the sugar over time, so the body always has something to work on. While the fast ones does as the name implies.

It's not only the kind of carbs who's important, but WHAT you eat together with it. If the meal contains proteins and essential fat accids the carbs will be slower, insulinutsondring (don't know what it is in english, the insulin in the body releases in a way) becomes less and the fat storage less.

Good carbs:

apple
orange
most fruits
OAT Best thing ever.
dark bread in general
makaroni
potatoe
some kind of rice, stay away from the really white ones that asians buys in big bags
etc

Bad carbs:

apricot
raisins
prune
corn
cornflakes
white bread in general, the whiter it is, the worse it is
white rice
all types of crackers
croissant
pancakes
popcorn

The list is kind of bad, cause its taken from my head, just stay away from white rice and white bread. Google after carbs, and some decent lists should come up. OAT is recommended no matter who you are. Especially oat porridge as breakfast.

You don't gain directly because of proteins, atleast you have to have extremely high amounts of it. Proteins in burning context lowers the glykemic index on the carbs in the meal, which again lowers the insulinutsondring. The body uses a lot of energy to handle proteins (% varies, some says its up to 25%), while 3-6% energy is used to handle carbs and fat.

How many times a day you eat doesn't mean much, except for your appetite:

In norwegian, article about meal frequency
http://www.treningsforum.no/php/art.php?id=556

There's a link on the bottom of the article with references to craploads of researches about that subject, so the information is reliable.

It's all the models and girl magazines that mentiones that lots of meals a day keeps the burning going, which isn't true at all.

Food isn't exactly my strong point, cause I got a body where I can choose to go up or down in weight as I want to, so I've never cared so much about food. But this post is more informative than other misleading posts.

One last thing. Most serious bodybuilder/people who work out seriously in the norwegian community swears to something named Udo's Choice, a bottle with essential fat accids, take it twice a day after meals.

To sum it all up:

White rice and bread is bad.
OAT/OAT porridge is magical
Lower calories than you burn to lose weight.
Lost of meals a day doesn't mean anyhting, except for your appetite.
Udo's Choice
Jogging/running is the fastest way to lose weight and fat percentage.
Cutting down on carbs isn't a good idea if you work out.

The post is written about things in general, I know that I haven't answered so well about your questions Herc, but a google search is actually better than asking ss nerds.

[Singularity]

Weight loss is not determined by carbs, but the balance between calories in and out. If you eat more than you burn, you'll gain. Less than you burn, you lose weight.

I cut out all wrong statements from your post. Pulling lists out out of your ass doesn't help either. Welcome back to the forums ratty..., I think everyone forgot about you by now.

Most people who read mags about food are fatter than the average computer nerd btw.

[Money]

Too many people who doesn't know shit and tries to answer questions. There's some words that I write who is directly translated from norwegian, cause I'm not bothered to look it up.



Weight loss is not determined by carbs, but the balance between calories in and out. If you eat more than you burn, you'll gain. Less than you burn, you lose weight.

The good and bad carbs you're refering to use to be called slow (good) and fast (bad).

The slow carbs are better for the body because it releases the sugar over time, so the body always has something to work on. While the fast ones does as the name implies.

It's not only the kind of carbs who's important, but WHAT you eat together with it. If the meal contains proteins and essential fat accids the carbs will be slower, insulinutsondring (don't know what it is in english, the insulin in the body releases in a way) becomes less and the fat storage less.

Good carbs:

apple
orange
most fruits
OAT Best thing ever.
dark bread in general
makaroni
potatoe
some kind of rice, stay away from the really white ones that asians buys in big bags
etc

Bad carbs:

apricot
raisins
prune
corn
cornflakes
white bread in general, the whiter it is, the worse it is
white rice
all types of crackers
croissant
pancakes
popcorn

The list is kind of bad, cause its taken from my head, just stay away from white rice and white bread. Google after carbs, and some decent lists should come up. OAT is recommended no matter who you are. Especially oat porridge as breakfast.

You don't gain directly because of proteins, atleast you have to have extremely high amounts of it. Proteins in burning context lowers the glykemic index on the carbs in the meal, which again lowers the insulinutsondring. The body uses a lot of energy to handle proteins (% varies, some says its up to 25%), while 3-6% energy is used to handle carbs and fat.

How many times a day you eat doesn't mean much, except for your appetite:

In norwegian, article about meal frequency
http://www.treningsforum.no/php/art.php?id=556

There's a link on the bottom of the article with references to craploads of researches about that subject, so the information is reliable.

It's all the models and girl magazines that mentiones that lots of meals a day keeps the burning going, which isn't true at all.

Food isn't exactly my strong point, cause I got a body where I can choose to go up or down in weight as I want to, so I've never cared so much about food. But this post is more informative than other misleading posts.

One last thing. Most serious bodybuilder/people who work out seriously in the norwegian community swears to something named Udo's Choice, a bottle with essential fat accids, take it twice a day after meals.

To sum it all up:

White rice and bread is bad.
OAT/OAT porridge is magical
Lower calories than you burn to lose weight.
Lost of meals a day doesn't mean anyhting, except for your appetite.
Udo's Choice
Jogging/running is the fastest way to lose weight and fat percentage.
Cutting down on carbs isn't a good idea if you work out.

The post is written about things in general, I know that I haven't answered so well about your questions Herc, but a google search is actually better than asking ss nerds.

if google is better than asking ss nerds why did u ask us about that 10k computer that we could have built for 1200? remember, rich BOI

btw, swimming is the best exercise

[Hero*]

Swimming is hardly the best exercise, but it isn't bad that is for sure. If you morons listened to me earlier..check out www.menshealth.com and you'll get all the information you would ever need to know for an amateur weightlifter. Because lets be serious, I would doubt anyone here actually is an athlete.

[Liquid Blue]

Alright :-) I can agree with that. And no I didn't hear about 21'ing. got some link? :turned: (couldn't find it in Google).

Sorry it took so long to reply, it's been kind of hectic this weekend since I moved into my apartment.

I don't have a link anymore, just copied what I saw on a forum into a notepad document.Here we go-

While we're talking on the subject of workout methods, I recently discovered 21'ing (don't know if its familiar).

It's great for biceps and shoulders (depending on the exercise you do) and really burns your muscles.

It's real simple, first you do 0-50% of the motion of the exercise 7 times.
Then you do 50-100% of the motion, 7 times.
Finally 0-100% of the exercise motion.

So basically it's half way up, full down for 7 times when curling. Then you switch to halfway up to full up, back to halfway, again 7 times, and finally the full motion (full down to full up).

I love it, you can try it out for any exercise you do, but some just don't work too well. Also helps to get past a plateau (sp?) with a certain weight, which saves the effort of starting to build up a different exercise.

[Money]

Swimming is hardly the best exercise, but it isn't bad that is for sure. If you morons listened to me earlier..check out www.menshealth.com and you'll get all the information you would ever need to know for an amateur weightlifter. Because lets be serious, I would doubt anyone here actually is an athlete.

swimming and trampoline are known as the 2 best i believe!f

[Saturn V]

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