McCain picks Woman as VP, Hell freezes over.

[Salubrious]

discuss

Other way around actually. Fluffz the conservative is attacking the liberal atheists and calling them blind, immoral, semi-retarded, etc etc while the liberals are defending themselves by trying to prove how morality does not necessarily depend on religion.

But thanks for your well-thought-out-one-word-input.

[gran guerrero]

defense != attacking.

are dear fluffz, I bring up cogito ergo sum because, despite Descartes' Meditator's idea of God, I believe that while I know that I exist, I can also say that I am the one bringing out my free will, for I only know that I exist. May I be wrong, may I be right, it doesn't matter, because in the end it is how I believe.

actually in the end it doesn't, what does matter though is what happens after death. It's 50/50 cause if you break down the arguments to the most basic form, we really do not know if there is life after death.

Just going to have to wait and see, but if you want to be like the others you can exit out early as well.

[DankNuggets]

See Jacob's Ladder for my thoughts on how long that last second of your life might seem.

[Squeezer]

actually in the end it doesn't, what does matter though is what happens after death. It's 50/50 cause if you break down the arguments to the most basic form, we really do not know if there is life after death.

Just going to have to wait and see, but if you want to be like the others you can exit out early as well.

maybe we all get virgins!

[Zeebu]

palin's email got hax0red

[Galleleo]

I believe in the Lost Island and John Locke.

[Zerzera]

Well you do not classify as Atheist just because you say you do, of course you are not dangerous (not dangerous for the support of morals that is). Instead you are a prime example of subjective blindness, you can barely see beyond your disgust for the christian church of 300 years ago, thats why you lack every possibility to argue against God that makes sense. Thats why you call yourself Atheist and resort to my - yea right, your - god when you try to explain your free will.

But I am a Christian, I am raised as one. I know the bible and I do not look at the crimes the 'churches' committed through the ages, it has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. What makes you think that I do? Since I never mentioned anything like that.

You don't know God, you never had a conversation with Him and He couldn't even afford it. So you only took your morals from the butchered/translated book and call them the only right. As Christian you aren't even part of 'His people'.
I don't buy your opinion that your religious morals are the only morals.
Jesus taught us that most of Gods words were misunderstood or peoples practice didn't match His preach.