Canadian Gov't falls?

[Money]

Who really gives a fuck that you finally overcame racism to a certain extent in your shitty fucking country. Go back to 1882 fuckface.

cry more, fucking nerd

[Jeenyuss]

if conservatives pull this shit off i'll be dissappointed.

[Summa]

I would just like to point out that no Americans are getting involved in the actual discussion that's going on here (just the few that are saying Canada sucks), maybe this sentiment should be returned when us Americans are discussing our country and its politics.

[HateTheFake]

I would just like to point out that no Americans are getting involved in the actual discussion that's going on here (just the few that are saying Canada sucks), maybe this sentiment should be returned when us Americans are discussing our country and its politics.

Im Hate The Fake And I Approve Of This Message

[Troll King]

I would just like to point out that no Americans are getting involved in the actual discussion that's going on here (just the few that are saying Canada sucks), maybe this sentiment should be returned when us Americans are discussing our country and its politics.

Because those Americans posting to insult Canada is exactly the same as the Canadians that are legitimately discussing American politics, right? Or would you prefer it if Canadians just followed suit and the only post in threads about American politics just to insult the U.S.?

[Liquid Blue]

how about we just say there are idiots on both sides and let the canadians get back to their government talk

[Salubrious]

Do the Canadians have their own version of Heavensent?

[Hakaku]

I would just like to point out that no Americans are getting involved in the actual discussion that's going on here (just the few that are saying Canada sucks), maybe this sentiment should be returned when us Americans are discussing our country and its politics.

Because those Americans posting to insult Canada is exactly the same as the Canadians that are legitimately discussing American politics, right? Or would you prefer it if Canadians just followed suit and the only post in threads about American politics just to insult the U.S.?

I'm confused, you both seem to be arguing the same thing :S

[Cops]

cry more, fucking nerd

You should be banned from all threads not related to pussy, beer, America, and Sports.

You can't handle this thread, instead of learning and conversing you pick fights with us cause we're not you, we get it. You have your misconceptions about who we are, and we really don't give a fuck about them. Most people just want you to stay the fuck out of any thread related to Canada.

[Cops]

how about we just say there are idiots on both sides and let the canadians get back to their government talk

I completly agree. However I don't see an abundance of Canadians saying "America sucks" in all the American threads. Then why the fuck do we have to put up with bullshit from cock breaths who only try to argue the legitimacy of our country and politics.

I like you dude, but there's way too many assholes on this forum.

I'd argue that Canadians generally think a lot better of your country then the rest of the world. You guys are like that friend that comes over without calling, pisses on our floor when drunk, and borrows MONEY but never pays it back. I gotta say it's really hard for us to like you (as a country, not as a people or person).

[froedrick]

cry more, fucking nerd

Go fuck your ugly wife, fatass

[Stormwick]

even though i don't particularly like harper, dion and his gang of friends are wasting taxpayer's money in making a friggin coalition right in the middle of a recession.
the people of canada should be the one's who decide who is PM, not a group of MP's who suddenly decide, even though defeated 6 weeks ago, that they want to overthrow the conservatives.

i also am annoyed at the fact that the separatists getting a cut from this.

dion keeps on accusing harper of just wanting to hold on to his job, but shouldn't everyone want to hold on to their job, especially in the recession?

jack layton seems nice with all his help the poor, more taxes shit, but he actually in my opinion one of the most powerhungry politicians i've seen.

[Liquid Blue]

I completly agree. However I don't see an abundance of Canadians saying "America sucks" in all the American threads. Then why the fuck do we have to put up with bullshit from cock breaths who only try to argue the legitimacy of our country and politics.

I like you dude, but there's way too many assholes on this forum.

I'd argue that Canadians generally think a lot better of your country then the rest of the world. You guys are like that friend that comes over without calling, pisses on our floor when drunk, and borrows MONEY but never pays it back. I gotta say it's really hard for us to like you (as a country, not as a people or person).

Trust me homie it's worse on this end

imagine being in public with your family and you have 3 or 4 loud, drunken uncles

facepalm every time they rant about some teenage girls tits or how "Amerika" is number 1

but hey, we're not all bad!

[Kolar]

even though i don't particularly like harper, dion and his gang of friends are wasting taxpayer's money in making a friggin coalition right in the middle of a recession.
the people of canada should be the one's who decide who is PM, not a group of MP's who suddenly decide, even though defeated 6 weeks ago, that they want to overthrow the conservatives.

i also am annoyed at the fact that the separatists getting a cut from this.

dion keeps on accusing harper of just wanting to hold on to his job, but shouldn't everyone want to hold on to their job, especially in the recession?

jack layton seems nice with all his help the poor, more taxes shit, but he actually in my opinion one of the most powerhungry politicians i've seen.

We don't decide who our Prime Minster or Government is. We vote for a single representative who speaks on our behalf in parliament and the Government is formed out of whichever party has the most seats. This Government is in the minority which means the opposition collectively is the majority. The Government is responsible to Parliament and governs only as long as that body has confidence in its ability to serve.

The BQ have no interest in governing Canada or getting in the way of either the Liberals or the NDP in doing so. I also do not see their movement being strengthened by any of this, they're a progressive movement and a Liberal/NDP coalition would probably move more towards the left. So the BQ will probably find themselves agreeing more with that Government over this current Government, even if they fundamentally disagree over federalism. They have also agreed to 18 months of stability where they would not defeat the coalition if they are able to form a Government.

Edit: And as for wasting money, the last election was called by Harper, his minority Government wasn't defeated. That costs us 300 million dollars. And now in the middle of very turbulent economic times and without the majority he was seeking, he tries to push through some heavy ideology nonsense in an attempt at a power grab believing the opposition was at their weakest right now.
Not wanting to be known as the only federal Government in the last 15-20 years which has run a deficit, and any kind of stimulus for the economy was going to be expensive he wanted to be in a better political position to deliver one. And to do that they had to deliver it during an election where they could effectively attack the opposition's take on any kind of stimulus, this last election's theme being only about leadership. If he failed to do so; just blame the opposition for befouling democracy, they had no "mandate" (whatever the hell that means), the big scary BQ is gonna eat us alive!.

[Troll King]

even though i don't particularly like harper, dion and his gang of friends are wasting taxpayer's money in making a friggin coalition right in the middle of a recession.
the people of canada should be the one's who decide who is PM, not a group of MP's who suddenly decide, even though defeated 6 weeks ago, that they want to overthrow the conservatives.

i also am annoyed at the fact that the separatists getting a cut from this.

dion keeps on accusing harper of just wanting to hold on to his job, but shouldn't everyone want to hold on to their job, especially in the recession?

jack layton seems nice with all his help the poor, more taxes shit, but he actually in my opinion one of the most powerhungry politicians i've seen.

A couple of things:

First, what taxpayer funds are being wasted by the formation of a coalition? All it entails is a couple of parties agree to support each other. You aren't paying a dime for that. What you did pay for was the October election that Harper called for, to the tune of $300 million.

Second (and a slight correction on what Kolar posted) , the Canadian public does NOT select the Prime Minister. That task falls on the Governor General Michaëlle Jean, whose job is to choose the PM based on who she feels has the best support of the MPs, who are publicly elected. In other words, the order of who decides on who becomes PM goes: 1) Governor General; 2) the MPs; 3) Canadian voters. And if you still want to go back to the "will of the people" argument, the Liberals and NDP combined for 44% of the popular vote, compared to 38% the Conservatives received. And it's the duly elected representatives of that 44% that are deciding to form a coalition. Don't believe the junk the Conservatives are selling that this is "undemocratic". This is an example of democracy at work.


UPDATE: The Governor General has decided to prorogue Parliament, suspending any action including the possibility of a confidence vote, until January 26. Hopefully this will give the Conservatives, as well as the other parties, time to do what their actual mandate given by Canadian voters, to work together to get things done.