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  • Originally posted by Epinephrine View Post
    Wal-Mart might not work for a few reasons:
    1) If the Zombie attack happens during a time when any customers or workers are still there, you're screwed *see stupid people messing everything up rule*

    2) If you don't secure all the entrances really, really fast you're screwed. These stores are HUGE, so if you were chased by zombies on the way to Wal-Mart, there's no way one could secure it well.

    3) If you pre-emptively arrived at Wal-Mart knowing that in a few days zombies would be coming, and you came in the middle of the night and actually managed to 'secure' the place, in the morning before the zombies actually got there, you'd have other people trying to break in, and eventually as people are somewhat smarter than zombies they would ruin your defenses. It would be worse if it were people you knew too, because it would be hard to just mow them down as if they were zombies.

    4) What if a relative/best friend/girlfriend/boyfriend really wanted in? Would you just abandon them? Sorry dad, I know zombies are coming but our defenses are secure.

    Then when you let them in.. BAM zombie time.


    The nomad idea is probably the best. It would do you good to drive on the backroads to get out to the middle of nowhere, and then live off the land in the mountains or far north and live with the inuit.
    If I saw you outside I wouldn't hesitate to mow you down epi
    Kidding, a doctor would be nice.

    I guess it depends really, I mean if you have the time to prepare for a zombie attack and get yourself set up, I still like the walmart idea. What you said is true, I figured in our hypothetical situation we were saying you've got the time to set up your base or wherever you're going. But if our hypothetical situation were somehow more realistic (haha) then you probably wouldn't have the time necessary to get all of your friends and family into walmart and set up barricades in the doors. Or for other reasons, like you said.

    Also, if other people were outside trying to break the doors in I wouldn't hesitate to shoot them. There's only so many supplies in a walmart and the more people you have to provide for the shorter you're going to last. I think a lot of people would say they wouldn't do this, but people react differently in survival situations, sometimes even surprising themselves.
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    • Well.. here's my thoughts on this important manner:

      If you can't plan ahead, well you're probably fucked.. But maybe just try to get as high up north as you can.. a place where it's just fucking freezing cold, and where zombies would just freeze up when they try to follow you (since they'd need some special protective clothes? well hopefully they do?)

      If you can plan it a little better.. some tiny tropical island seems nice. Make sure you have your own helicopter/plane though, because when the news of zombies comes out, everywhere turns into complete chaos..
      Question: can zombies go through water? Even oceans? If so I'd be fucked eventually.. but it'll still take a long fucking while before they'd decide to leave the mainland to get me, and till then I can just chill out on mah island :]

      I've never seen zombies that can swim.. maybe walk over the bottom of the ocean?? Well then I'd plan ahead even more and would've made sure I had build an waterworld-esque floating-island.. if I could choose a place I'd be on when zombies would appear.. I'd choose some hugeass aircraft-carrier with tons of (nuclear) weapons on board.. just nuke those son of a bitches from way out.


      Also, more romantic:

      "I have built a treehouse
      I have built a treehouse
      Nobody can see us
      Because it's a you-and-me house

      I've been climbing rocks and stones
      Been collecting broken bones
      I've been swimming across the lakes
      Just to find this perfect place
      I got lost into the woods
      I've been covered up in mud
      I've been going through a lot
      Just to find this perfect spot

      I have built a treehouse
      I have built a treehouse
      Nobody can see us
      Because it's a you-and-me house"

      zombies can't climb trees = ez win!

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      • i already said live in treehouses
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        • I wonder if george romero will ever make a week of the dead movie based on everyone living in walmart

          most likely walmart would still try to charge customers too, as they are probably the ones who started the zombie virus since they knew it would draw customers to their stores all over the world
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          • Dawn of the Dead was filmed in a mall that I used to go to all the time in high school. It was a pretty dead mall then, and now it's actually a dead (and abandoned) mall.
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            • really, you'd be quiet safe on the water, just hope you don't capsize. Water world didn't seem all that bad anyway. who knows, maybe nuclear war will break out following the infestation, and you'd somehow grow gills like kevin costner.

              plenty of people live on houseboats, don't see how it'd be that different. Zombies can't swim. period. yeah they can walk on the bottom (if they aren't floating due to the decay) but there's no way they'd find you. If you can get somewhere that's even 20-50 feet deep, they'd be lost under you.

              i guess there could be the problem of the zombies contaminating the water. But if it's a virus that spreads in some way besides the normal biting, then you're gonna be fucked anyway. Maybe in that scenario you're immune?

              But if you've got no one else around, what's the point? Who knows, maybe zombies do have a soul. You'd just be like the guy in I Am Legend: a serial killer to the zombies. They'd hate you, and put a bounty on your brains. You'd be better off joining the ranks and enjoying your brains while they last.
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              • Originally posted by DankNuggets View Post
                plenty of people live on houseboats, don't see how it'd be that different. Zombies can't swim. period. yeah they can walk on the bottom (if they aren't floating due to the decay) but there's no way they'd find you. If you can get somewhere that's even 20-50 feet deep, they'd be lost under you.
                what if they pile up fast enough
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                • Originally posted by project dragon View Post
                  what if they pile up fast enough
                  i was thinking of that. It's kinda hard to estimate an angle of restitution for zombie bodies, but i'm thinking it's got to be pretty low, since they'll be squirming around and not know exactly where I am (deep enough water, it's too dark to see). Plus, you can move around, so they'd have to constantly move the pile.

                  Could always get a really deep lake, like several hundred feet. No amount of zombies is going to pile that high, organized to the point where the top is close to your boat.

                  I neglected the fact that decaying bodies often float for some time, which could make the zombies more like polar bears meandering across the surface.

                  Also the threat of zombies piling up doesn't really amount to much next to the treat that zombie birds would eventually find you, and swarm your boat.

                  maybe a nuclear submarine would be best for a long wait, but i'll take my chances on a cruise ship.

                  Would make for a helluva cruise! Talk about hedonism, we'd probably end up od'ing before the zombies every caught us!
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                  • All right, after giving this considerable drunken thought and talking it over with my friend, we would probably end up running to the commissary/bx on base. Although military installations are usually the root cause/least safe place to be in movies, I think this could be barricaded in a similar way to wal-mart like Kthx said. The downside is that theres not as much ammo if any in the bx, so someone would have to have the presence of mind to stop by the armory on the way over if the infection wasnt already too terrible. Also we both agreed to burn all of our uniforms if this were to ever happen because people in uniform are always fucked.

                    Ideally, I think a navy carrier might be the best very long-term solution. The carriers are basically small cities and assuming theres no airborne infection everyone there would be safe presumably. As long as you could purify water eventually youd be able to fish and get a better supply of food. Of course even this has its downside, because you'd have to avoid land at all costs and eventually youd run out of fuel so I foresee something like dawn of the dead's ending.

                    The open field nomadic strategy would have to be one of the lamest things I've ever heard of. Youve given up any tactical advantage you may have had, and your master plan is to outrun a zombie horde that never gets tired.

                    Mountains? Man, I could see that working because zombies cant climb very well but once they find you you're really going to be in a bind. Being upstream makes sense too, but could you really sleep well at night? Youd go insane...
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                    • Yo Stephen King's The Mist is a perfect example why being stuck in a conveniance store with a bunch of people is a bad idea.

                      (I know this isn't about zombies, but this is from the perspective of being stuck with a bunch of ppl knowing certain doom awaits you outside)

                      You get all those religious wacked out ppl and idiots trying to play advocates of God and start doing some crazy shit.

                      You got the nervous scared people doing some stupid shit

                      You got those over inflated ego dick badass wannabes that will definitely create a hurricane of shit.

                      Every man for themselves, or your families/loved ones, fuck anyone that's a stranger.
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                      • Originally posted by Liquid Blue View Post
                        True true



                        no you can come, squeezer and Nickname could also join me and Gal. The 5 of us could move around pretty easily
                        True

                        Originally posted by Pandagirl! View Post
                        I would join up with LB's nomadic idea, but it looks like I'm not wanted.
                        False, also, we'd all need sexual gratification. High Five, last woman on earth!

                        Originally posted by Troll King View Post
                        I'd be careful, LB. The minorities in the group always get killed first.

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                        So yeah, I'm more down with the Nomadic idea. Go to an area, take what you can and move on. Save the last bullet for yourself, ALWAYS.
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                        • Originally posted by gran guerrero View Post
                          Yo Stephen King's The Mist is a perfect example why being stuck in a conveniance store with a bunch of people is a bad idea.

                          (I know this isn't about zombies, but this is from the perspective of being stuck with a bunch of ppl knowing certain doom awaits you outside)

                          You get all those religious wacked out ppl and idiots trying to play advocates of God and start doing some crazy shit.

                          You got the nervous scared people doing some stupid shit

                          You got those over inflated ego dick badass wannabes that will definitely create a hurricane of shit.

                          Every man for themselves, or your families/loved ones, fuck anyone that's a stranger.
                          Every single word of this...yes, just yes.


                          To NN:

                          The nomadic idea seems too sketchy. I mean you would prolly sleep on the ground, where the zombs are readily walking around. I mean ofc zombies don't sleep, so wouldn't the best idea be to be around a place where you aren't constantly being afraid of waking up to a zombie gnawing on your pharynx?

                          And for that reason I support the awesome treehouse idea. We build a treehouse on a really really big tree, with like a huge trunk. We bring rifles/smgs/all the counterstrike guns from a local now-nonexistent gunstore. Raid a local fastfood restaurant (prepare for the most genius idea of this thread), take all their frozen patties and french fries, and possibly ketchup and powerade, and take like a mini grill. And take all that shit up to the treehouse. Like we can cook all the patties and eat them. It would be cash money.

                          We could fortify it with lumber from Home Depot, but not a Lowe's, cuz...no one goes to Lowe's. It would be ballin' as hell.

                          But yeah I don't think my idea is toppable. I mean if we had all the boss guns, and the zombies ever realized that we were up there, we would just shoot down at them from the tree. Or maybe even throw down a beef patty or two to ease their thirst for whomans.

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                          • The mist didnt work out because of the nature of those glass windows. They had plenty of supplies to last them, but the windows breaking in the store made people listen to that crazy woman. They could no longer protect themselves and were basically just waiting for the aliens to come and kill them. Wal-Mart (or my local BX) doesnt have glass windows that are that large, and they can easily be blocked with the aisles like Kthx suggested earlier. I think the mist was a fucking great movie that accurately predicts what would happen if shit hit the fan, but hiding in the grocery store didnt save them only because of the windows.
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                            • I will hide in the like of this babe:



                              with my close family, friends(who are mainly girls) and some of my colleagues (who are mainly guys coz I work in a male dominated industry).

                              And maybe, just maybe, a couple of people from this forum.

                              I would also bring 2 tons of soil, seeds and some chickens (in case we are sick and tired of the fishes).

                              But if birds and fishes are capable of being turned into zombies too then this plan is screwed. I would have to look at the alternative of hijacking a plane with a pilot and stealing a lot of fuels ... but that would turn out to be too much work for me.
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                              • i think the navy carrier is the right idea. Just need someone who can fly a helicopter to the oil reserves. Good idea on taking soil to the ship tel cat. also nuclear powered carrier would be the right choice. All you need is 20 to 40 people and you can last a long time.
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