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  • Jerome Scuggs
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    Originally posted by qan View Post
    Should say, this isn't exactly true. All drugs are about equally shunned, so that marijuana=meth=heroin=cocaine=MDMA=LSD, etc. It's illegal, so it's bad.
    i'm not super invested in like, dying on this hill or whatever but for what it's worth there were ~16.5k meth arrests compared to ~3k weed arrests last year, which follows a general trend where there are far more meth-related drug cases than marijuana. amphetamines were first synthesized in germany but the meth- formation was first synthesized in japan. more specifically i read an interesting AMA by an American who sold weed in Japan, i figure someone who was this experienced in the japanese black market's a good source to lean on

    on face i know they're all illegal but in reality certain types are used more than others and there are different cultural norms at play regarding their acceptance
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  • Ephemeral
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    Hi Qan!
    I think that comparing US society to Japan society requires a bit more context.

    In Japan, the priority is
    1.Country
    2.Company
    3.Family

    In US, the priority is
    1.Family
    2.Self
    3.Personal Time

    In the US ‘Work-Life’ balance is a must, most people view a job as secondary and have very little loyalty to a company. In Japan the priority is on work life and work is considered the center of life. There are many Japanese traditions that re-enforce this priority.
    The US Left was done a good job convincing many people under50 that we are have screwed over the rest of the world, that we owe everyone money/restitution and a high quality of life. There are plenty of examples in this thread of this mindless, lemming like thinking which is the result of the US education system. Compare the US/Japanese school systems; 180 days in US and200 days in Japan. Look at where the US ranks in student performance…



    In the US, we have a law with the minimum number of school day;180. Note this is the minimum, yet every single school in the US does just the minimum. Nothing like setting the bar high. Doh, does it not speak to anyone that no US school system thinks, “gee, we keep graduating a bunch of low ranking dumbasses, perhaps we ought to make the school year longer until we put the US back in at least the top 10?” No, of course not. No one wants to work harder, no one wants to intrude upon our leisure time. Why work hard when we are owed a good life by the government? No one in Japan thinks or feels like this.
    Eph
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  • qan
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    Originally posted by Jerome Scuggs View Post
    (i'm not joking one single bit when i say that methamphetamines are literally more culturally acceptable in japan than marijuana, because businessmen over there do alot of meth)
    Should say, this isn't exactly true. All drugs are about equally shunned, so that marijuana=meth=heroin=cocaine=MDMA=LSD, etc. It's illegal, so it's bad.

    The use of meth, cocaine and other stimulants is probably about as common as marijuana use, because stimulants sometimes increase productivity. But when someone gets caught with such drugs it's a massive scandal. It's certainly not used routinely by businessmen, anything like that. Only evil people use drugs -- so goes the belief. Well, also, rich college kids, because they're above the law and it's a sign of status to be able to get them.

    Also, yeah, Japan is pretty capitalist, but at the same time, there are very few people who are medically uninsured. Either you get insurance through your workplace or through the government. Both are reasonable, and the fees associated are reasonable as well. It's also pretty comprehensive, including dental, chiropractic, mental, etc. So for example, a root canal reconstruction that would have cost about $1500-2000 in the US with dental insurance cost me about $40 in Japan.

    Their pension system is also excellent. Japanese retired at 60 until just a few years ago (now bumped to 65). And when you get your pension, which is guaranteed by the govt (no evil, mercenary companies firing you on some bullshit just before retirement to prevent paying it out), it's quite a decent amount. So much so that it's probably going to ruin the economy shortly. But, hey, old people vote.

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  • kthx
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    I'm out drinking ill answer this tirade once I'm not hungover Jerome

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  • Jerome Scuggs
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    come to think of it it's sort of weird that the christian right completely misses the fact that Mohammad was a merchant and like 90% of the battles he fought were rooted in his desires for economic expansion

    jesus was totally a commie

    edit: sorry ill stop "furiously multiposting" aka getting stoned and letting my mind wander thru all these interesting thoughts within a 30-minute timespan
    Last edited by Jerome Scuggs; 01-13-2018, 10:18 PM.

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  • Jerome Scuggs
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    also i know that posting a screenshot of marxist literature was probably super triggering so allow me to post some biblical christian literature to even you out

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  • Jerome Scuggs
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    now that i think about it japan is an interesting culture to study, because they are hypercapitalist (i'm not joking one single bit when i say that methamphetamines are literally more culturally acceptable in japan than marijuana, because businessmen over there do alot of meth) and, mysteriously, have a huge problem with 1) suicide 2) birth rates 3) social anxiety

    makes me think about something karl marx pondered, 200 years ago:


    edit: it's interesting to read this in the aftermath of the "yolo" trend, where our youth collectively decided that not enjoying life while they're young in order to be old and rich is not the sort of life they wanna live.
    Last edited by Jerome Scuggs; 01-13-2018, 09:50 PM.

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  • Jerome Scuggs
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    Originally posted by kthx View Post
    You know comparing cultures is much harder than simple numbers.
    woah woah woah woah suddenly you're concerned about the complexities of saying a country is "capitalist" or "socialist" and using it as a straightforward example? maybe you should apply this sort of thinking to your venezuela analogy. holy shit, are we making progress here??????

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  • kthx
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    You know comparing cultures is much harder than simple numbers.

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  • Jerome Scuggs
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    Originally posted by kthx View Post
    Japan is a capitalist country that offers a high level of social benefits to its citizens
    hold the phone are u saying that such a concept is not only possible, but that it's been done, and it hasn't turned into venezuela?

    pinch me i must be dreaming

    edit: the weird thing about this is japan ACTUALLY has a problem with people dropping out of society and refusing to work, which is weird because even with that problem, by your own analysis they seem to be doing quite fine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori
    Last edited by Jerome Scuggs; 01-13-2018, 09:01 PM.

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  • kthx
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    And then in Sweden they hand out wristbands and rape whistles to try to stem the huge amount of rape that takes place from refugees, while plowing sidewalks instead of streets with snow first because its sexist to women otherwise, and want to stop people from driving cars because apparently driving is done more by men and its sexist. I don't see many of these countries doing well in the future.

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  • kthx
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    Australia is one of the most capitalist nations in the world, Japan is a capitalist country that offers a high level of social benefits to its citizens, the UK will switch to a more private property approach in government after leaving the EU and is one of the reasons why they left it to begin with, France just elected Macron who french socialists oppose, Germany is a socialist nation but will likely fall in stature in the next 15-20 years as they are overpopulated by refugees who will overtake german population by then.

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  • Dierienow
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    Not just America but Germany, the UK, France, Australia, Japan, Estonia, etc. That footage could have come from any one of these socialist countries.

    Agreed lol
    Last edited by Dierienow; 01-13-2018, 01:40 PM.

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  • kthx
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    Its nice that they let you use the internet with your functioning autism.

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  • Dierienow
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    Dude how did you get footage from America after they implement universal health care btw?
    Last edited by Dierienow; 01-13-2018, 01:33 PM.

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