Whats up faggots.

[Jerome Scuggs]

http://time.com/4360758/inside-the-h...olice-prisons/

Hey, you think the muh hotdog guy would want to change places with one of these guys?

also you're obsessed with venezuela lmao, like it's the only other country on the planet

but i'll take the bait because you're dumb as hell. louisiana is the prison capital of the world. have you heard of a place called angola?

[kthx]

http://time.com/4360758/inside-the-h...olice-prisons/

Hey, you think the muh hotdog guy would want to change places with one of these guys?

Edit: Will you be paying more or less in taxes at the end of the year after paying in or receiving your refund after the tax cuts? I know the answer here, because I know in general how much your position pays and the answer is yes, you will be getting back likely another 1000 dollars.

[Jerome Scuggs]

You want to talk about stealing money from tax payers look no further than that

this is a dumb as hell sentiment. i do look further than that. it's why i know what i know.

[Jerome Scuggs]

every state that has drug tested welfare recipients winds up losing money because, quite frankly, the number of welfare recipients on drugs is ridiculously low compared to the cost of testing every single person

so it's good to know you actually don't care about money when it comes to making peoples' lives more difficult, and you in fact support an even more intrusive government

also tax cuts are not the same things as lower taxes

also you're like, really obsessed with college

[kthx]

And you forget that Wikileaks released a document proving that some of the banks that were bailed out under TARP actually had some of that money earmarked to the Hillary Clinton campaign, the same campaign that Bernie Sanders wanted you to vote for after they stole the election from him. You want to talk about stealing money from tax payers look no further than that, and if you want to sit here and tell me that Bernie Sanders would have made a good president then explain how he didn't even have the fucking balls to call out the person who stole the election from him and instead told you to vote for her.

[kthx]

like ok so ive been paying taxes for about 12 years now

in that time welfare programs have been incessantly cut, education spending has been cut, public programs have been cut

and yet my taxes aren't going down

because lobbyists hype up this idea of "welfare queens" to get people like you angry and vocal,

they use your support to gut the programs,

and while you're enjoying the post-coital glow of victory in having undone welfare,

the money taken from welfare is then redistributed to corprations in the form of subsidies, tax breaks, grants, regulations and laws

and my taxes never seem to actually go down,

the rich get richer,

the poor get poorer,

and you remain convinced that somehow it's the poor's fault

Lol yo, your taxes are going to go down this year actually is the funny thing. But yes lets talk about these things. I don't give a fuck if the people in jail eat corndogs three times a day for a fucking year, they shouldn't have cable tv, or many of the other perks they have while in jail also. If they have food to survive, water to survive, and I will even toss in AC because that is fucking inhumane to not have it in the south then who really cares. They shouldn't have been criminals if they wanted to decide what they got to eat every day lol. I have zero fucks to give about that.

Welfare/Unemployment recipients should have to take drug tests and should be better screened to make sure they are actually trying to go to work, and are eligible to work by being able to pass a random drug test.

Companies sure do get a lot of money, like remember when Obama and the democrats passed the QE 1-3 and bailed out the collapsing housing market that they created by offering subprime mortgages to people who never should have had it? What do you think those trillions of dollars went to, were you personally helped or anyone who was poor personally helped from those bailouts that went to companies? You want to sit here and bitch about companies getting money but to be fair Trump is actually trying to get businesses to reopen shop here in the US which quite a few of them are, and also quite a few of them are expanding. By cutting down unemployment levels he is helping the people you want to be helped by offering them a life of maybe not luxury but one where they don't have to commit crimes and go to jail in order to provide for themselves and their families. The point is companies create wealth, create jobs, and if we have to give them some tax breaks to move back to the US or to employ a few hundred more people I have no problem with it.

[kthx]

Haha, Jerome are you going to really sit here and whine about cycles of debt and prison when groups you support has college students already in debt go out into the streets to try to burn down college campuses and "punch nazis" because Ben Shapiro or Milo Yiamwahateverfuck is going to be doing a speech? There is a cycle of debt and prison for you, those dipshits go to jail, lose their college loan, are still in debt, have assault and/or arson charges on their record and can't get a job even at the starbucks they burned down. Your fucking shitty ideals and how you want to perpetuate them helps feed the system that you claim is broken and ruins lives.

[Jerome Scuggs]

like ok so ive been paying taxes for about 12 years now

in that time welfare programs have been incessantly cut, education spending has been cut, public programs have been cut

and yet my taxes aren't going down

because lobbyists hype up this idea of "welfare queens" to get people like you angry and vocal,

they use your support to gut the programs,

and while you're enjoying the post-coital glow of victory in having undone welfare,

the money taken from welfare is then redistributed to corprations in the form of subsidies, tax breaks, grants, regulations and laws

and my taxes never seem to actually go down,

the rich get richer,

the poor get poorer,

and you remain convinced that somehow it's the poor's fault

[Jessup]

Yup he is a naive kid ..

[Jerome Scuggs]

let me expand a bit on that.

at what point does me using "i need help" or "i have a problem" become complete reliance on the system?

let me be very clear: i am 100% for people who actually REQUIRE help, receiving that help.

however, we need better oversight to ensure that "i need help" isn't an excuse that echoes on for years or decades and costs taxpayers unthinkable amounts of money. at some point, people need to be expected to take responsibility for their own life, their own health, and their own prosperity.

https://www.webcitation.org/6ByInyoN...dhuff/Nasw.htm

the funny thing here is corporations receive more government money than any welfare demographic

& i agree, these corporations shouldn't have to rely on the government to succeed

but your position is to ignore the huge amount of money going to corporations that don't need it

and instead yell incessantly about taking money away from people who need it for basics like fucking food

i hate calling people sheep but the only reason you believe what you believe is because you're not aware of how much money is being bled away from our government to the 1%, who then tells you it's people on welfare who are bleeding you dry

edit: like seriously, look at our government, look at the laws being passed, do you think poor people control our government? that poor people have the power to pass laws to benefit themselves? that poor people have somehow seized control of our government, and these helpless rich people were unable to stop them? come on dude, think

[Jerome Scuggs]

like there are more people trapped in the prison/debt cycle due to shitty laws, than there are people abusing welfare or whatever

you'd rather ignore this massive group of people being fucked by shitty laws, and focus on a small, small group of people who take advantage of government assistance

and you wonder where our government's money is going. http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/201..._over_foo.html

[Jerome Scuggs]

sorry, but no one that has a probation officer is there "through little to no fault of their own." they broke the law and probably got a giant break on what their jail and/or prison sentence could be with reductions and a probation sentence. those idiots were given second chances to not fuck up; definitely not victims of an unfair and "shitty" system. follow basic rule of law and common sense, and i bet that the majority of us could stay off of probation supervision!

okay, so as of right now the government has zero (0) laws which unfairly punish people or lead to cycles of debt and prison? if that's the case wtf are you conservatives bitching about

[Voth]

let me expand a bit on that.

at what point does me using "i need help" or "i have a problem" become complete reliance on the system?

let me be very clear: i am 100% for people who actually REQUIRE help, receiving that help.

however, we need better oversight to ensure that "i need help" isn't an excuse that echoes on for years or decades and costs taxpayers unthinkable amounts of money. at some point, people need to be expected to take responsibility for their own life, their own health, and their own prosperity.

[Voth]

You are one naive kid. Having grown up close to the streets of Washington DC and Baltimore I've seen this stuff first hand many times. It has been going on nationwide for decades and involves 10's of thousands of cases.

Not to mention the war on drugs is a bogus war on people. You right wingers who scream for liberty should ALL be against the war on drugs.

i don't understand the "naive kid" dig, jessup. if you want to go down that road, i'll just call you a "confused mongoloid" from now on. i don't think name-calling is the way to go about this, but you're certainly at a disadvantage here.

you say you grew up next to all this stuff yet stop before explaining anything. what exactly did you grow up next to? what do you propose is a solution to that mystery? is it feasible and fair to those who are footing the bill for those "solutions"?

[kthx]

Also I am always right about everything. My threads are always the best because of who I am. You are some faggots boygirl who was terrible and stayed on paladen for years and had a mental breakdown because if your soy intake. You started out not know what sex you are even though its a scientific fact that men have a penis not women and now resort to trying to be edgy and talking to people who are leagues smarter than you about subjects that are beyond your grasp due to your limitations. This is the best thread on these forums since the last one I made.