World Politics

[Mandagorian]

Originally posted by HeavenSent
Since the liberals dominate the ideals taught in 99.9% of the educational institutions, it's not surprising to hear young folks reciting the filth they're being brainwashed with. Before I was in my 30's, i too bought into all that rhetoric from so-called scholars. However, I've since done my own research of the facts... Thanks to upstanding citizens like Bill Clinton who disgraced the highest office in our country.

For you guys that really want to know the truth, I encourage everyone to read the latest book by Ann Coulter called, Treason. An excellent book documenting the evil within our country.

But then again, you guys probably only read books if you have to knowing there's a grade for it at the end of the school year.

The question is are you READY TO FACE THE TRUTH. Take a out a notepad you need some lessons.

A)Don't insult someone when you want them to accept your opinions. Cause it wont work.
B)Don't come on here saying do you want to know the truth, nothing you speak about is truth rather close minded half ass opinions.
C)It must suck being your age and being told by ConcreteSchlyrd, he is what almost half your age?
D)Some author " Ann Coulter " might have some intresting facts and maybe a logical opinon but you don't have an opinion rather you proably read the book and said "I agree with every word she said".
E)You talk about brain washing but the fact is when you come on here and say stuff like "Are you ready to see the truth?", which only leads me the the assumption that you're part of some sort of cult.

I'm sorry did you say you're a mis-guided white religous inbread hick? Because that's all I have gathered from you speaking.

[HeavenSent]

Originally posted by Bioture
If the Ten Commandments end up getting posted on state buildings in America, America will no longer be a democracy, it will be a theocracy.

10. You shall not covet.
Covet? Seldom used today, not many actually know what it means.

This is one of the things i'm talking about. Foreigners come into this country thinking it's a democracy. It's NOT. America is a Republic. We're not led by the majority, we're led by the Constitution.

Covet would mean something like you've borrowed your neighbor's lawnmower and either don't plan on returning it or you're neglegent in returning it.:eek:

[Bioture]

Originally posted by Mandagorian

E)You talk about brain washing but the fact is when you come on here and say stuff like "Are you ready to see the truth?", which only leads me the the assumption that you're part of some sort of cult.

I'm sorry did you say you're a mis-guided white religous inbread hick? Because that's all I have gathered from you speaking.

Maybe not a cultist but he is indeed a devoted servant of God. I have a lot of respect for that, even if theists look down on athiests. I have learned to love the sinner and hate the sin, so to speak.

As for the hick part.... no comment.

[Bioture]

Originally posted by Taciturn Bob
Bioture has just pwned you

I enjoy a good challenge from a devoted theist now and then. The sad thing is... they all seem to be really single-minded.

[HeavenSent]

Originally posted by Mandagorian
A)Don't insult someone when you want them to accept your opinions. Cause it wont work.
B)Don't come on here saying do you want to know the truth, nothing you speak about is truth rather close minded half ass opinions.
C)It must suck being your age and being told by ConcreteSchlyrd, he is what almost half your age?
D)Some author " Ann Coulter " might have some intresting facts and maybe a logical opinon but you don't have an opinion rather you proably read the book and said "I agree with every word she said".
E)You talk about brain washing but the fact is when you come on here and say stuff like "Are you ready to see the truth?", which only leads me the the assumption that you're part of some sort of cult.

I'm sorry did you say you're a mis-guided white religous inbread hick? Because that's all I have gathered from you speaking.

A) Just as I don't seek to convert people to my belief, I don't give two shits if people agree with me or not. I do not need to be validated by anyone.
B) Hey it's the kettle calling the pot black! - hypocrite.
C) Told? You must be kidding... Just because you side with him doesn't necessarily imply that i was "told".
D) Wrong. It's called gathering the facts - schoolboy.
E) Dickhead, if you're going to quote me, at least use what i said. I put a conditional word on my statement.. Can you say conditional? Get a clue... then go take a bath because it's Wednesday.. your day to wash up.

[Mandagorian]

Originally posted by HeavenSent
God gave us Ten Commandments. It was the religious authorities that added over 600 laws to those ten. Then Jesus comes along and explains it quite simply. #1 Love God with all your heart, mind, body & soul. & #2 Love thy neighbor. That's it. When we walk in the Spirit of Love we can do no wrong.
Man makes things difficult.. God makes things easy.

Alright enough of your religous propaganda, this is getting old. But I'll do it once again just because it's you. Where's your proof god exists, I think you have to come to the realization that god might not infact exist and even if he does he might not infact like you.

Better yet what does the Constitution and Religion have to do with eachother? Absolutely fuck all, the laws of society try to avoid affecting people's religous beliefs rather then having an influence on them.

[Bioture]

Originally posted by Mandagorian
Alright enough of your religous propaganda, this is getting old. But I'll do it once again just because it's you. Where's your proof god exists, I think you have to come to the realization that god might not infact exist and even if he does he might not infact like you.

Better yet what does the Constitution and Religion have to do with eachother? Absolutely fuck all, the laws of society try to avoid affecting people's religous beliefs rather then having an influence on them.

I'm not going to answer the first question about the existence of a god, cuz ive done it so many times its getting boring. Long story short: no one can prove/disprove the existence of a god, but evidence suggests he dosent exist. Which means constitutional laws supercedes religious laws.

And some stuff in the constitution is based on religion. We get punished for murder right? adultery? stealing? See those 2 things do relate. And i say constitution is based on religion, because those who originally wrote it were theists.

[HeavenSent]

Originally posted by Mandagorian
Better yet what does the Constitution and Religion have to do with eachother? Absolutely fuck all, the laws of society try to avoid affecting people's religous beliefs rather then having an influence on them.

Not many people in our land know that July 4, 1776, was truly a benchmark in Biblical history and that it was the exact fulfillment of Bible prophecy. Some are also amazed when they discover that both John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, the 2nd and 3rd Presidents respectively, died on July 4th, 1826, exactly 50 years to the day from the signing of the Declaration of Independence, the event we celebrate today.

Here is another fact that many people are not aware of and that is that our Liberty Bell is inscribed with scripture from God's Word, the Bible! The scripture is from Leviticus 25:10, "Proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof".

Picture courtesy of ushistory.org
http://www.ushistory.org/libertybell/index.html
Click on the link above to read the rich history of our Liberty Bell.

It is most fitting that a quote from the Book of Leviticus be inscribed on our most precious symbol of liberty, for it is in this great book through the adherence to the laws and ordinances contained therein that true liberty is granted. At one time in this great nation, in order to qualify to be a sitting judge, one had to know the great books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Today the judges must make sure that they are not taught in our schools nor even mentioned in their courtrooms. Of course the streets of our cities are no longer safe to walk at night, and our schools must be equipped with metal detectors and guarded by police, and so the liberties of the people have been given over to the ungodly and they "proclaim fear throughout the land". You see, to liberals and anti-Christian groups it is much more dangerous to civilization for a student to carry a Bible than to carry a gun. Well at least at this point you don't need a background check to purchase a Bible and you are still free to read and study God's Word without the permission or sanction from any group, church, religious organization, or government agency.

So let's lay some foundation from the Book of Leviticus and see what our Father has to say regarding His laws. Then we will go to secular history and discover some remarkable "coincidences" surrounding Independence Day.

First, it is written in the Book of Leviticus that God made a covenant with His people* at Mt. Sinai in the wilderness and the conditions of the covenant were these:

Leviticus 26:3
If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them;

... then great national blessings will follow, vs. 4-13.

Leviticus 26:14
But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments;

... then great national cursings will follow, vs. 15-23.

* Many preachers, pastors, ministers, etc., teach that the people who were gathered at Mt. Sinai, i.e. God's people, were all "Jews". Do not fall victim to teachings void of both Biblical and historical accuracy regarding Hebrews, Israelites, and Jews. Write or e-mail us at the addresses given at the end of this study and request the booklet The Abrahamic Covenant, by E. Raymond Capt. In this booklet you will discover exactly who the so-called Lost Tribes of Israel really are and where they dwell this very day!

Furthermore, God stated that if His people "would not hearken unto Him" that He would chastise them for "seven times" and would scatter them among the nations. A "time" is a solar year of 360 days, just as the "time, times, and half a time" of Dan. 12:7 is the same as 1260 days in Revelation. So twice 3 1/2 times, or 7 times, would be 2520 days. Then we learn from the great prophet Ezekiel in chapter 4, vs. 6, that when the subject is Israel's punishment, then a day is given to represent one year. So "seven times" would be 7 x 360 years or 2520 years. Here is the prophecy announcing that period of chastisement:

Leviticus 26:28
Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.

Leviticus 26:33
And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste.

This is where it truly gets exciting! The 2520 years would commence with the captivity of each of the tribes of Israel. Again, if you do not know who and where those tribes are located today, be sure to write and request a copy of The Abrahamic Covenant. You will then discover that the Birthright Blessings contained in the covenant that God made with Abraham were eventually split between Joseph's two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh. It is also easy to document that England represents Ephraim, a company of nations, and the United States represents Manasseh, who literally became 13th tribe of Israel, a great people, (Gen 48). That is why the number 13 is stamped on our nation's history, e.g.. 13 original colonies, 13 original states, etc. In fact did you know that there are 13 sets of 13 between the obverse and reverse of the Great Seal of the United States that was commissioned to be prepared on this very date, July 4th, in 1776? http://www.artisanpublishers.com/bk_our_great_seal.html

Now challenge anyone on this! Look up the date of the captivity of the tribe of Manasseh by the king of Assyria! E. Raymond Capt's book "Missing Links Discovered in Assyrian Tablets", pg. 67, Artisan Sales, Calif. will give you a good head start. You will find that Tiglath-pileser III in 745 BC records the conquest of Israel and mentions the exact area where Manasseh had been settled. When you add 2520 years to this date, you arrive at July 4th, 1776. Coincidence? Not a chance! God's plan and His timetable are perfect.

I have often said that the Industrial Revolution could not, and did not, occur until the American Revolution had occurred. Why? The 2520 years had to expire and begin the time when true Israel would no longer be the "tail", but would become the "head" of nations, which is to say the superpower of superpowers.

Now let's look closely and, if you can open your eyes to "see", you will see God's divine "stamp" on the date July 4th, 1776.

Evidence of the significance of this date are found in the remarkable "coincidences" surrounding the deaths of our 2nd and 3rd Presidents, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. The following quotations are from Funk & Wagnalls Special Edition entitled "The Presidents", published by The Curtis Publishing Company, Indianapolis, Indiana, 46202:

"John Adams died on July 4, 1826, the same day as Thomas Jefferson. The following comment on the significance of this coincidence appeared in the July 8, 1826, issue of the Post: "A gentleman arrived from the Eastward, last evening, informs, that the venerable JOHN ADAMS, died at his seat at Quincy, near Boston, on the fourth of July, about five o'clock, P.M. but a few hours after the sage of Monticello!-United in the grand political concerns of life, thus in death they are not divided! The last words of John Adams were said to have been, "Thomas Jefferson still survives..." not knowing that Jefferson had preceded him in death by a few hours."

Just before he expired, John Adams remarked "Thomas Jefferson still survives". One Early American History textbook calls it, "an extraordinary statement".

Concerning Thomas Jefferson, "The Presidents" volume continues...

"On July 4, 1826 he died on the same day as John Adams, and exactly 50 years (emphasize ours) after he had written the Declaration of Independence. The death notices of the two friends appeared side-by-side in the July 8, 1826, issue of the Post. Jefferson's read: The venerable patriarch and sage, the immortal author of the Declaration of Independence, THOMAS JEFFERSON, Esq. expired at his seat, at Monticello, on the fourth of July, at ten minutes before one o'clock, just fifty years since the promulgation, in the Halls of Congress, of the Liberties of this country. His death had been looked for two or three days before it took place, as he was confined to his bed during that time by severe indisposition. He was sensible of his approaching dissolution, and prescribed the mode of his interment. Well might he have exclaimed in the language of the psalmist, "Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word, for my eyes have seen thy salvation..."

Thomas Jefferson apparently "knew" two or three days ahead of time that he was going to die on July 4, 1826. And both Thomas Jefferson and John Adams died on that same day, July 4, 1826, exactly 50 years from the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Remarkably, they died within a few hours of each other! Coincidence? I think not!

The number 50 in Biblical numerics denotes a "Jubilee", the year in which all debts public and private are released and once again liberty is proclaimed throughout the land.

Leviticus 25:10
And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.

[HeavenSent]

Cont...

And so every 50 years the Liberty Bell was to be rung, i.e. the Scripture was to be fulfilled, the law was to be obeyed, and "liberty was to be proclaimed throughout the land". But guess what? It was NOT proclaimed and 20 years after it should have been, the bell "cracked", and the expansion of that crack rendered the Bell unringable. Folks, it occurred on Washington's Birthday in 1846, just a few months short of the 70th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence! Oh, and by the way, 70 in what is called "Biblical Numerics" denotes the "restoration of Israel".

The number 50, however, is the Jubilee number which we just read of, and it is comprised of 5, the number of grace, times 10, the number of law as in the 10 Commandments.

Note: There is an appendix in back of the Companion Bible, by Kregel Publishers, which explains Biblical Numerics and the significance of numbers in scripture. An example is the number 40 which denotes trial, testing, or probation, and every time it is used it is connected with trial, testing, or probation. It rained 40 days and 40 nights at the flood of Noah, Israel wandered in the wilderness 40 years, Christ was tempted 40 days, etc, etc. Pretty amazing, isn't it? Ask the scoffers and skeptics, "How did all the different authors of the books of the Bible know to use the same number code?")

Now, it is no coincidence that John Adam's last dying words were "Thomas Jefferson still survives"... indeed a seemingly extraordinary saying for this dying man. Why? Since many doctors and ministers will confirm that it is not at all uncommon for those in the transition of dying to claim they see or recognize a loved one, there is little doubt that John Adams saw Thomas Jefferson in his room and together they departed for "home", mission accomplished. Read again the comment published in the Post in the July 8th, 1826 edition! "Thus in death they are not divided." And so they were not divided in death!

That these two great men were used by our Father to help lay the foundation of this "One nation under God" is without dispute. God truly blesses America! And John Adams and Thomas Jefferson certainly proved to be a blessing to this nation. Their "coincidental" death on the First Jubilee of our nation, the land of the free and the home of the brave, was no coincidence, for the hand of God was upon these two. We thank our Father for them.

One more interesting note: James Monroe, the 5th President of the United States, also died on July 4th. That's right! Three of the first five Presidents of this great nation died on the 4th of July. Isn't that amazing?

Please feel free to share this study with all your friends and relatives this July 4th holiday and have a great Independence Day as we celebrate the miracle of the birth of the United States of America, to whom we pledge our allegiance, One Nation Under God, Indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for All.

[Bioture]

yea thats too long just read what i said. its ez and laid out like that.

[Mandagorian]

Originally posted by HeavenSent
A) Just as I don't seek to convert people to my belief, I don't give two shits if people agree with me or not. I do not need to be validated by anyone.
B) Hey it's the kettle calling the pot black! - hypocrite.
C) Told? You must be kidding... Just because you side with him doesn't necessarily imply that i was "told".
D) Wrong. It's called gathering the facts - schoolboy.
E) Dickhead, if you're going to quote me, at least use what i said. I put a conditional word on my statement.. Can you say conditional? Get a clue... then go take a bath because it's Wednesday.. your day to wash up.

A)Really? You sure do seem intent on getting people to belief what you do, you even give a refrence of a book which you no doubt get all your half ass arguements from.
B)I was making fun of you.
C)Conc resorted you to swear or you to whine at him because you have no arguement with his words.
D)Yes I'm going to grade 11, but I'm happy that I know more about the world and how it works that a brainwashed 40 year old hick. The worlds changing asshole accept it or get out.
E)Back to C, you have no arguements and decided to mouth off at me because you have nothing else.

I do respect you for having a deep belief in your Religion but not when you try to shove it down my throat or anyone elses throat for that matter.

[Kolar]

Well it pretty pointless, were not going to see your views as real/vailed or agree with them. Your not going to see what we say as real/vailed since imo your really neck deep in religious shit. Saying you dont care about peoples opinions or if they agree with you is again complete bs, why else would you be going on in this thread anyways.

God has nothing to do with politics nor should we confuse the shit out of each other by arguing over everything at once.

[Bioture]

Originally posted by Mandagorian

I do respect you for having a deep belief in your Religion but not when you try to shove it down my throat or anyone elses throat for that matter. [/B]

YES! I AGREE! This one time Jehova's witnesses came to my house and i greeted them without any clothes on. Hey, if adam and eve can do it, so can I.

[Mandagorian]

Originally posted by Bioture
yea thats too long just read what i said. its ez and laid out like that.

Yes I refuse to read something that is that long and includes no inital opinion, I do although congratulate you on your copying and pasting skills.

[HeavenSent]

i could have wrote it myself, but i wanted to get it in before your bathtime.
You're too lazy to read it... No venture, no gain. You're a happy little camper festering in your own ignorance.