Return of the King

[Liquid Blue]

Yea the ending dragged on a bit but it was a great movie overall.

[ÆNIMA]

Originally posted by Epinephrine



*SOME SPOILERS*

Frodo dies, a lot like Trinity did.

Actually, no.

Anyway, the dead army was really supposed to be more like a massive grey shadow following the 3 travellers (and other Dunedain which Jackson left out). They also couldn't use their weapons or actually kill anyone...they were much like the Nazgul in that fear was their main weapon. The Dead couldn't kill anyone. Also, the oathbreakers didn't have anything to do with the Battle of Pelennor, they just helped the 3 and the Dunedain capture a few ships that the living would take down to the real battle...after they got the ships, their oath was fulfilled and they could then fly away like they did in the movie:P

[Nickname]

Originally posted by Evasive
SCREW TRYING TO ENJOY A GOOD MOVIE,
I AM GOING TO SEE IT DEN ANALYZE IT AND COUNT THE FLAWS WITH MY COOL SUPER FRENDS!!!1

[Bosshawk]

i thoguht it was awesome

i saw no real drop in quality from 1 to 2 to 3 and i watched 1 and 2 last weekend again on DVD just to have it all fresh in my mind


easily the best trilogy of all time, the only one close or tied would be the Godfathers

[Liquid Blue]

Well I doubt there would be a drop in quality, seeing as how they were all done at the same time (aka one right after the other).

[MaGi kOz]

Originally posted by Evasive
SCREW TRYING TO ENJOY A GOOD MOVIE,
I AM GOING TO SEE IT DEN ANALYZE IT AND COUNT THE FLAWS WITH MY COOL SUPER FRENDS!!!1

[froedrick]

more like 30 dunedain and 2 sons of elrond there ae

[ZeUs!!]

Sorry for bringing this thread back up (actually I'm not, I did it on purpose), however rather than start a whole new thread when we've already got on I'm just going to add to this.

I've just come back from seeing it - the midnight showing like everyone else - and there are a couple of points I want to address:

• Is it just me or are the guys on the elephants (apart from the Tribal guy steering it) Taliban? Sure they're dressed in red, but with their own personal stylists the Taliban could be the best dressed terrorists on the block. Perhaps Osama's been on one of these celebrity makeover shows?
• There were far to many endings. A film should have 1 ending, which is at the end and is mean't to end the film.
• Everyone's been going on about how cool the Elf's ears were, but no ones noticed they're eyebrows. Whats going on with that? Were the make up people so consumed with furry feet that they forgot to do a bit of plucking. Hell that lanky one looked worse than that guy out of Busted (see fig 1.1). If you're going to get a load of actors who's role requires them to have blonde hair then either get blonde actors or get some hair dye AND SOME TWEEZERS.
• Legolas would be a world class surfer if he wasn't living in Middle Earth and fighting evil etc. First he surfed down the stairs on a shield in The Two Towers then he zoomed down the elephant's trunk after single-handedly taking out 30 taliban
• What was the fucking point of the ghosts getting a boat when they could walk on water? I can just imagine what was going through Aragorn's head as they all jumped off the boat about 20 metres from shore and walked the rest: 'WHAT THE FUCK! I'VE JUST SINGLE HANDEDLY DEFEATED YET ANOTHER HUNDRED STRONG ARMY FOR THIS FUCKING BOAT AND THEY CAN WALK IT! DO THEY NOT WANT TO MAKE THIS EASY FOR ME?' Why didn't they just say: 'Right chaps, we'll go back the way we came and we'll see you back at gondor bright and early tomorrow morning.'
• Frodo's a girl and Sam's gay
• Another thing I want to know is who cut the hobbits hair on the quest? Over the 13 months on the quest it never grew or got out of shape! Everyone's too busy picking holes in the film compared to the book, I want to know why their personal hairdresser was never in shot. I mean if he had his own trailer following him when he was being chased by that big fuck off spider then why the hell didn't one of them phone for help?
• When Pippin had that grey ball stuck to his hands and was holding it out in front of him wouldn't you just love it if someone ran over and drop kicked it for a field goal?
• Eowyn (see fig 2.1) or Liv Tyler (see fig 2.2), I really can't decide. On the one had Liv Tyler looks fucking sexy in that elf dress but in normal clothes she looks a bit frumpy, while Eowyn is a 32B max. Its a toughy
• That film was 3 hours 20 mins long. Airlines have been sued over Deep Vein Thrombosis for flights that were 2 hours long. Someone call my lawyers
• Farimir is the best character in the film, fact. Aragorn's too busy posing, Orlando Bloom's a cock and everyone else is 2 foot tall
• You want to know why the Orc's always look so pissed off? They haven't had sex in years! If I was that sexually frustrated I'd want to pillage a few villages
• You could make a kickass ska band out of Gondor's army. I spotted at least three horns and there was a constant drum beat in the background noise throughout the battle.

Fig 1.1 - Charlie from Busted



Fig 2.1 - Eowyn



Fig 2.2 - Liv Tyler



Edit: How comes when that spider shafted Frodo in the belly, there was not even a scratch on him when he was laying starkers on the floor of the torture chamber in Mordor?

[Dabram]

Originally posted by Heatha
True. Everyone in the theathe kept clapping and clapping. I think the movie was flawless, it couldn't have been done any better. It went along pretty well with the book. Such a great movie.

What the hell, people clap in the theater? What's the point?


Overall I'm dissapointed by the LOTR movies. The beauty of the LOTR books was that it still read very realistic while it was a fantasy story. In the film a few things really seemed so unrealistic or simply didn't make sense that it ruined the realistic feeling that a fantasy story/movie needs.
For example, you don't read about an invincible army destroying thousands of Orcs in just 10 seconds, or about Aragorn (who's some sort of superhero in the movies) who storms ahead when they get surrounded at the gates of Mordor into 1000s of welltrained killing machines and doesn't get killed. Instead of attacking the one guy, the orcs just stand still in line, and wait for Aragorn to have a go at them, very realistic indeed.

The invincible dead army in the movie was by far the funniest thing though. I couldn't help but wonder why Aragorn, since it was an invincible army, didn't keep them around for a few more days, use them to destroy Mordor with their invincible powers and then send them away after all evil got destroyed. Invincible armies have never made any sense, and never did Tolkien write that the dead army was an invincible army.

It's kinda dissapointing how the movie ruined the great story of the books. Fantasy or science-fiction stories with big flaws in it simply suck. Except for the action and the great visuals the movie wasn't any better than the Terminator-trilogy (which story had equally flaws).

ps. Mike, I agree Faramir is by far the best character.
pps. And Hobbits should've been made a bit less gay. I had a complete different image of Hobbits after reading the books, and seeing how they acted in the movies was really disturbing.
ppps. Nothing to do with the third movie really, but WHY DID THEY LEAVE OUT THE COOLEST CHARACTER, TOM BOMBALDIN?

[ÆNIMA]

Originally posted by ZeUs!!

Edit: How comes when that spider shafted Frodo in the belly, there was not even a scratch on him when he was laying starkers on the floor of the torture chamber in Mordor?

He was "shafted" in the back of the neck.

Dabram...all of those points have been brought up and shot down on the basis that it really does ruin the movie for you if you strenuously compare it to the books. Of course, that doesn't keep anyone who has read the books from comparing in their mind...

Tolkein wrote the books for his own pleasure, the movies were based on the books...not on Tolkein's imagination. Face it, Bombadil wasn't that important in the book...and he would've added at least half an hour into the movie (even if you skipped the Barrow Downs).

[ZeUs!!]

Originally posted by ÆNIMA
He was "shafted" in the back of the neck.

Isn't that usually slightly fatal?

[Pandagirl!]

Originally posted by Fit of Rage
Tip: DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE WITH A FEMALE BETWEEN 14 AND 20.

Reasoning: THEY WILL CRY.

I don't understand it. About half of the audience was female, and precisely that half of the audience was crying. WHAT WAS SO GOD-DAMN SAD ABOUT IT? I thought it was a good movie overall.

Lol I didn't cry. I thought the movie was pretty good, but not entirely true to the book. But do I care? Not really. If it was a good movie that was fun to watch who cares if it wasn't completely true to the book. The only movies that are completely true to books are boring ones we watch in school. Well anyway, the best part of the movie was whenever they showed Legolas (Orlando Bloom) cuz he's a hottie. My friend's mom is Viggo Mortenson's cousin so my friend is gonna try to get me Viggo and Orlando's autograph

[Joshua Tree]

Agreed, Zeus, on pretty much everything.

Faramir was awesome. Eomer was pretty badass, too, though he did practically nothing cept impaling the guy on the Oliphant.

The Hobbits were too gay.

Nonetheless I liked the movies (save TTT, that kinda sucked IMO).

[Adeon]

Originally posted by ZeUs!!
Isn't that usually slightly fatal?

She likes em fresh, thats how she likes em.

[ZeUs!!]

I told you! They're Taliban!!!