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I read 2 posts in this thread: Qan's and Dock's.
Although I realize that by the end of my days, I wasn't the most active, I do agree with alot of what you have said qan.
From top to bottom, the current staff situation is horrid.
ZH's are trained to use a bot to help people. This has gone from each case being handled with care, to the option of using the aforementioned robohelp. In the "good ol' days", staff members were at least encouraged to ask the person who had done a ?help if the bot's answer had been enough. Now the bot does that for them. The large majority of the ?help calls that ZH's now take, and actually put any time in to, are people wanting wbduel started. A 30 second task that requires no hint of public relations.
Next, robohelp takes over even by actually imposing itself upon a person's help request rather than giving a live staff member the option. If a person comes into trench wars for the first time and figures out how to do a ?help, they will be greeted by an automated message from a bot that probably has nothing to do with the actual question at hand. I'm sure the new ZH's are not bad people nor are they inherently bad at helping - they are the victims of bad examples being set by the people ahead of them.
ER's are learning more and more to host games that take no effort at all. Any sort of basing game has been replaced by prodem, deathmatch and jav games have been replaced by hunt and games like tournament or racing or ufc have been thrown out altogether. ZH's now host the most demanding games (dr. coiff hosts ufc, and i know some guys do turretwarz and basing quite frequently), but this is in hopes of being promoted to ER so that they can use bots and not have to do any actual work. All the events being hosted now just require typing !start to some bot and sitting back in your chair for 15 minutes.
Does anybody remember when actual basing games were hosted over a hundred times a month? When ER's were clearing a hundred, even two hundred events a month on a regular basis? When tournament games were hosted two or three times a day (sorry, automated ?go tourny every weekend doesn't count)? When ER's were mandatorilly required to host 40 games minimum?
This month, the top ER has hosted somewhere around 75 events. The 5th most active ER has hosted 40-something. People have been out of school due to Christmas vacation. And before people are quick to jump and say that they are on holiday, the zone numbers have been over 600 on regular weekdays. There are more people on now than ever. There are 27 ER's listed on the staff link on the tw.org website. <sarcasm>Taking into regard the fact that this list is very hard to maintain</sarcasm> and that as such, some of the ER's that are last seen more than 10 days ago are listed there, and also taking into regard the fact that some of these ER's are recently promoted ZH's, you still have the large majority of your hosting staff not even doing what is required as a minimum for them to stay on staff. Again, I'm sure if they felt that their efforts were being noticed, that the ER's would do the hosting. But all they see above them is inactivity and effort being put in only to dodge having to do any small task.
Mods are now too "busy" to respond to any ?cheater call that isn't a pubbot saying that so and so is being racist. People are encouraged to use ?cheater if somebody is lagging horribly so that the situation can be dealt with yet a member of staff hardly ever comes. Nor do you get the response that used to be the bare minimum - a lower member of staff apologizing and saying that nobody is available to take the call. We had one mod ban a person because they were challenging a squad using a matchbot. I was specced randomly by a mod almost two weeks ago (with no hard feelings either way). They told me that they were given a week's suspension, and the suspension still hasn't been put in place to date.
Which leads me to upper staff. Of the staff listed on tw.org again, particularily the smods, the majority have so little interest in Trench Wars that I am certain they would be axed if they were anything below smod.
2dragons spends more time in Hockey Zone and Extreme Games than he does in TW. The Pusher hasn't been seen in forever, nor has he been replaced. Mythrandir and Epinephrine are both fairly inactive, and you seldom hear from any of the rest.
LNX is the TWD Head Coordinator, yet Weaver (who resigned months ago) still handles the public relations aspect of TWD. The guy (LNX) doesn't even play TWD, nor has he any interest in changing things (like greens in TWDD/JD) unless he is directly told by somebody higher, and even less active.
Pure_Luck is the worst dean of staff I have ever come across. From Yomama and Superdave, to Mr. Spam and Flabin, to THE PUSHER, Weaver, POiD and anybody I might have forgotten, they all put effort into maintaining staff. Some have not been liked (by myself included), but I have respected what they have all done. I have no respect for Pure_Luck as Dean of Staff. When Pusher was around, he did nothing on his own whilst push balanced being dean with coordinating TWL with playing, talking to people and hosting radio. P_L is on far more, and does far less.
I don't think the guy knows that the forums - the host of 99% of all discussion about this zone - exist. When he does come on, he puts up a poll like "Should TWLB be based on points, total flag time, or a point race", completely ignores the results and changes the league to an option not even given. I think that the 4 spider max poll actually had a 52% to 48% edge, and not for the direction the P_L chose to go.
The guy recruits people he likes, or is a pawn of friends in this game and recruits who they like. He says little on chat, little to anybody who isn't on Spastic (hyperbole for effect) and is generally not respected by anybody on staff. I have had people from the bottom to the top say that they don't like the way the dude does stuff, and upper staff wasn't pleased with him so many months ago.
On the TWL side, this guy doesn't play LD or LJ, and has no interest in improving them. TWL is supposed to start in just over a week, and nobody knows about a qualification deadline, league format (aside from what I'll mention next) nor other specific details. All that I think that we have heard from P_L (the ONLY league op) is (and this was posted on Dec. 6th, over 3 weeks ago):
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Wow buddy, it must have taken you alot of time and effort to figure that shit out. Basically, you copy all the work that Epi and Push put into TWL and decide that they will be good for a league run at a completely different time of year (this is a winter league after all) and assume that the system we had in place was the most ideal.
Furhter, a majority of the TWL community can tell you how much a league can change in the space of a month. Shriek has just come back, two weeks before TWL, Diso and Pallies have merged, and unmerged, and new squads have come and gone by the dozen.
Just as an example, i brought up the Shriek issue with Push way back when, and he was very quick to say that if they did come back for TWL, that alot of thought would go into whether they should be allowed to play. Further, person after person asks if disopallies would be allowed to auto-qualify, and hey, no response from the power that be. The only upper-staff activity on that front was Dock locking the initial thread (an active, and 300+ post thread).
Pure_Luck has enough time to play two hundred and one rounds of twdd/twlj, and 67 twbd games, as well as those countless games of ?go base you can see him in, but not enough time to take me off the staff list until I have asked him for the fourth time?
Buddy, step down. You aren't doing a good job, I hope you don't think you are, and the position won't get you any girls. This isn't to slander you, this is in hopes that maybe Trench Wars, and a TWL season I'm sure will be half-assed might be salvaged.
Finally, staff as a whole is so disinterested in anything out of the ordinary. Two ER's had to organize a strikeball league (when TWL wasn't going on might I add) and got very little support from any other staff member. These games were hosted at the same time as TWL would be hosted, and TWL always had countless hosts around to do that.
Check that, now that I think of it, ever since P_L took over as a TWL coordinator, fewer and fewer people were volunteering to host games, nor were they being trained to do it.
I volunteered to assist P_L with a draft league. By the end of it, Rodge had done the maps, I had done the grunt work, and P_L was sitting back doing nothing.
A bunch of the long-serving members of staff were put together in an Event Coordinating role by Pusher. Push is gone, since then P_L had put, without telling anybody, some random people into a close-knit group, and shown no sense of encouragement at all. How many of you, or even how many of the current staff population even knows about the existence of the ECT?
Conveniently, Pure_Luck's squad, Spastic, (a squad that isn't overly respected by the Trench Wars community) now has 9 staff members on it that I am aware of. I would be very surprised if this weren't the most for any squad in Trench Wars. Stabwound, a Spastic captain and a guy who spends every day talking about how great he or his squad is, or speaking down to other people, just gets recruited to a Zone Helper? What's next, making Necromotic an SMod in charge of public relations?
Although I realize that by the end of my days, I wasn't the most active, I do agree with alot of what you have said qan.
From top to bottom, the current staff situation is horrid.
ZH's are trained to use a bot to help people. This has gone from each case being handled with care, to the option of using the aforementioned robohelp. In the "good ol' days", staff members were at least encouraged to ask the person who had done a ?help if the bot's answer had been enough. Now the bot does that for them. The large majority of the ?help calls that ZH's now take, and actually put any time in to, are people wanting wbduel started. A 30 second task that requires no hint of public relations.
Next, robohelp takes over even by actually imposing itself upon a person's help request rather than giving a live staff member the option. If a person comes into trench wars for the first time and figures out how to do a ?help, they will be greeted by an automated message from a bot that probably has nothing to do with the actual question at hand. I'm sure the new ZH's are not bad people nor are they inherently bad at helping - they are the victims of bad examples being set by the people ahead of them.
ER's are learning more and more to host games that take no effort at all. Any sort of basing game has been replaced by prodem, deathmatch and jav games have been replaced by hunt and games like tournament or racing or ufc have been thrown out altogether. ZH's now host the most demanding games (dr. coiff hosts ufc, and i know some guys do turretwarz and basing quite frequently), but this is in hopes of being promoted to ER so that they can use bots and not have to do any actual work. All the events being hosted now just require typing !start to some bot and sitting back in your chair for 15 minutes.
Does anybody remember when actual basing games were hosted over a hundred times a month? When ER's were clearing a hundred, even two hundred events a month on a regular basis? When tournament games were hosted two or three times a day (sorry, automated ?go tourny every weekend doesn't count)? When ER's were mandatorilly required to host 40 games minimum?
This month, the top ER has hosted somewhere around 75 events. The 5th most active ER has hosted 40-something. People have been out of school due to Christmas vacation. And before people are quick to jump and say that they are on holiday, the zone numbers have been over 600 on regular weekdays. There are more people on now than ever. There are 27 ER's listed on the staff link on the tw.org website. <sarcasm>Taking into regard the fact that this list is very hard to maintain</sarcasm> and that as such, some of the ER's that are last seen more than 10 days ago are listed there, and also taking into regard the fact that some of these ER's are recently promoted ZH's, you still have the large majority of your hosting staff not even doing what is required as a minimum for them to stay on staff. Again, I'm sure if they felt that their efforts were being noticed, that the ER's would do the hosting. But all they see above them is inactivity and effort being put in only to dodge having to do any small task.
Mods are now too "busy" to respond to any ?cheater call that isn't a pubbot saying that so and so is being racist. People are encouraged to use ?cheater if somebody is lagging horribly so that the situation can be dealt with yet a member of staff hardly ever comes. Nor do you get the response that used to be the bare minimum - a lower member of staff apologizing and saying that nobody is available to take the call. We had one mod ban a person because they were challenging a squad using a matchbot. I was specced randomly by a mod almost two weeks ago (with no hard feelings either way). They told me that they were given a week's suspension, and the suspension still hasn't been put in place to date.
Which leads me to upper staff. Of the staff listed on tw.org again, particularily the smods, the majority have so little interest in Trench Wars that I am certain they would be axed if they were anything below smod.
2dragons spends more time in Hockey Zone and Extreme Games than he does in TW. The Pusher hasn't been seen in forever, nor has he been replaced. Mythrandir and Epinephrine are both fairly inactive, and you seldom hear from any of the rest.
LNX is the TWD Head Coordinator, yet Weaver (who resigned months ago) still handles the public relations aspect of TWD. The guy (LNX) doesn't even play TWD, nor has he any interest in changing things (like greens in TWDD/JD) unless he is directly told by somebody higher, and even less active.
Pure_Luck is the worst dean of staff I have ever come across. From Yomama and Superdave, to Mr. Spam and Flabin, to THE PUSHER, Weaver, POiD and anybody I might have forgotten, they all put effort into maintaining staff. Some have not been liked (by myself included), but I have respected what they have all done. I have no respect for Pure_Luck as Dean of Staff. When Pusher was around, he did nothing on his own whilst push balanced being dean with coordinating TWL with playing, talking to people and hosting radio. P_L is on far more, and does far less.
I don't think the guy knows that the forums - the host of 99% of all discussion about this zone - exist. When he does come on, he puts up a poll like "Should TWLB be based on points, total flag time, or a point race", completely ignores the results and changes the league to an option not even given. I think that the 4 spider max poll actually had a 52% to 48% edge, and not for the direction the P_L chose to go.
The guy recruits people he likes, or is a pawn of friends in this game and recruits who they like. He says little on chat, little to anybody who isn't on Spastic (hyperbole for effect) and is generally not respected by anybody on staff. I have had people from the bottom to the top say that they don't like the way the dude does stuff, and upper staff wasn't pleased with him so many months ago.
On the TWL side, this guy doesn't play LD or LJ, and has no interest in improving them. TWL is supposed to start in just over a week, and nobody knows about a qualification deadline, league format (aside from what I'll mention next) nor other specific details. All that I think that we have heard from P_L (the ONLY league op) is (and this was posted on Dec. 6th, over 3 weeks ago):
Originally posted by Pure_Luck
Originally posted by Pure_Luck
Furhter, a majority of the TWL community can tell you how much a league can change in the space of a month. Shriek has just come back, two weeks before TWL, Diso and Pallies have merged, and unmerged, and new squads have come and gone by the dozen.
Just as an example, i brought up the Shriek issue with Push way back when, and he was very quick to say that if they did come back for TWL, that alot of thought would go into whether they should be allowed to play. Further, person after person asks if disopallies would be allowed to auto-qualify, and hey, no response from the power that be. The only upper-staff activity on that front was Dock locking the initial thread (an active, and 300+ post thread).
Pure_Luck has enough time to play two hundred and one rounds of twdd/twlj, and 67 twbd games, as well as those countless games of ?go base you can see him in, but not enough time to take me off the staff list until I have asked him for the fourth time?
Buddy, step down. You aren't doing a good job, I hope you don't think you are, and the position won't get you any girls. This isn't to slander you, this is in hopes that maybe Trench Wars, and a TWL season I'm sure will be half-assed might be salvaged.
Finally, staff as a whole is so disinterested in anything out of the ordinary. Two ER's had to organize a strikeball league (when TWL wasn't going on might I add) and got very little support from any other staff member. These games were hosted at the same time as TWL would be hosted, and TWL always had countless hosts around to do that.
Check that, now that I think of it, ever since P_L took over as a TWL coordinator, fewer and fewer people were volunteering to host games, nor were they being trained to do it.
I volunteered to assist P_L with a draft league. By the end of it, Rodge had done the maps, I had done the grunt work, and P_L was sitting back doing nothing.
A bunch of the long-serving members of staff were put together in an Event Coordinating role by Pusher. Push is gone, since then P_L had put, without telling anybody, some random people into a close-knit group, and shown no sense of encouragement at all. How many of you, or even how many of the current staff population even knows about the existence of the ECT?
Conveniently, Pure_Luck's squad, Spastic, (a squad that isn't overly respected by the Trench Wars community) now has 9 staff members on it that I am aware of. I would be very surprised if this weren't the most for any squad in Trench Wars. Stabwound, a Spastic captain and a guy who spends every day talking about how great he or his squad is, or speaking down to other people, just gets recruited to a Zone Helper? What's next, making Necromotic an SMod in charge of public relations?
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