I Like Weasels

[SpiderMage]

Tone, God you're a fucking suck up. 've played Weasel a long time, 've played their arch enemy the Terr a long time and 've played Lanc and Warbird long enough to be semi decent with them and you child are full of it.

Weasel cannot thrust, cloak, stealth and fire all at the same time. The dual drain of stealth and thrust would kill the ability to fire, so thus you cannot thrust, put on stealth 'real quick' then destealth and make a quick shot. Also, so fucking what if you found a way to make the bullets faster, faster doesn't make them better. Weasel bullets aren't like Warbird bullets that have guided and forward trajectories, thus so what if they are faster, that just means Weasels have to be moving in the direction they want to fire, which they always had to do, however having no stealth just dampens it because if you see a blue dot on radar coming straight at you yet see no enemy, it's not hard to dodge.

And Tone, seriously, you can take a Lanc bullet without dying. Did you discover this in a special arena where they prized you shields? Because hate to break it to you, but one, just one bullet from a Lanc, 'm not talking a shot 'm talking one BULLET, as in one l'il sprite of yellow death, can KILL a fully energized Weasel, and one Spider/Terr bullet, can cripple it.

As a few have said before me, fuck you, you stupid l'il patronizing whiner.

[Danny Tanner]

weasels are sad now. They either go around invisible with the blue dot still showing and easily die, or they try to rush ships uncloaked and get a shot off, again easily killed.

They no longer have much use getting rid of campers or whatever.

[SaucyKing]

Weasel cannot thrust, cloak, stealth and fire all at the same time.

I can barely thrust and fire at the same time <_<

[Troll King]

And that's only in the bedroom. :grin:

[PH]

Just to test the effects of the changes that have been made, last night I hopped in a WB and proceeded to get 100-plus bounty, both in spawn and mid, within five minutes. I didn't just do this once, I did it six times in a row, effortlessly. You might as well have lined the ships up and let me pop them off one by one. Keep in mind this is from a person whose WB skills are average at best. I shudder to think what a talented warbird player could do. It's too easy to say "screw basing" and just lame it up somewhere else now. This new weasel is a nice novelty, but I'd like my full-on, full-size basing weasel back, and I'm not alone.

[SpiderMage]

Damn Pure you avatar is hypnotic....

[Tone]

Tone, God you're a fucking suck up. 've played Weasel a long time, 've played their arch enemy the Terr a long time and 've played Lanc and Warbird long enough to be semi decent with them and you child are full of it.

Weasel cannot thrust, cloak, stealth and fire all at the same time. The dual drain of stealth and thrust would kill the ability to fire, so thus you cannot thrust, put on stealth 'real quick' then destealth and make a quick shot. Also, so fucking what if you found a way to make the bullets faster, faster doesn't make them better. Weasel bullets aren't like Warbird bullets that have guided and forward trajectories, thus so what if they are faster, that just means Weasels have to be moving in the direction they want to fire, which they always had to do, however having no stealth just dampens it because if you see a blue dot on radar coming straight at you yet see no enemy, it's not hard to dodge.

And Tone, seriously, you can take a Lanc bullet without dying. Did you discover this in a special arena where they prized you shields? Because hate to break it to you, but one, just one bullet from a Lanc, 'm not talking a shot 'm talking one BULLET, as in one l'il sprite of yellow death, can KILL a fully energized Weasel, and one Spider/Terr bullet, can cripple it.

As a few have said before me, fuck you, you stupid l'il patronizing whiner.

YES you can take a lanc hit and as for the other thing stupid idiot, you turn on stealth, you see someone blue in radar, and you thrust at them and fire, they dont see you on radar, only when you suddenly thrust into visual range and fire do they see you. this technique is especially good for messing with Ice_Cap and other pub bird duelers who duel above the right and left safes

[Tone]

Just to test the effects of the changes that have been made, last night I hopped in a WB and proceeded to get 100-plus bounty, both in spawn and mid, within five minutes. I didn't just do this once, I did it six times in a row, effortlessly. You might as well have lined the ships up and let me pop them off one by one. Keep in mind this is from a person whose WB skills are average at best. I shudder to think what a talented warbird player could do. It's too easy to say "screw basing" and just lame it up somewhere else now. This new weasel is a nice novelty, but I'd like my full-on, full-size basing weasel back, and I'm not alone.

OHHHHH OK, warbirds shouldnt be allowed to try to get 100 bounty, instead their ship should suddenly just explode at often random times (getting Xed)

[PH]

OHHHHH OK, warbirds shouldnt be allowed to try to get 100 bounty, instead their ship should suddenly just explode at often random times (getting Xed)

Oh, I neglected to mention that my team failed to take base even once while I was doing this. So how much good was I really doing?

[Shas'la T'au Kais]

OHHHHH OK, warbirds shouldnt be allowed to try to get 100 bounty, instead their ship should suddenly just explode at often random times (getting Xed)

you don't need to put (getting Xed) after your feeble explanation of what happens. We're smart enough to know what you mean and we heard it the first 328746293494629487692387y46duhfsoiuyt308729423 times.

Also, why SHOULDN'T they get xed? They should be basing, not fucking around in spawn.

and I thought this was a basing zone..

ps:fuck you t0ne

[Tone]

you don't need to put (getting Xed) after your feeble explanation of what happens. We're smart enough to know what you mean and we heard it the first 328746293494629487692387y46duhfsoiuyt308729423 times.

Also, why SHOULDN'T they get xed? They should be basing, not fucking around in spawn.

and I thought this was a basing zone..

ps:fuck you t0ne

because if they get rushed by a Weasel and killed, or get rushed from far by a weasel with radar stealth on and killed, or get killed by a weasel because the weasel was too small for them to hit, or whatever else.....that is entirely different than not being seen on radar, not being seen visually (For unlimited time), no anything and suddenly killed. much different. weasel has re-entered the game

[SpiderMage]

YES you can take a lanc hit and as for the other thing stupid idiot, you turn on stealth, you see someone blue in radar, and you thrust at them and fire, they dont see you on radar, only when you suddenly thrust into visual range and fire do they see you. this technique is especially good for messing with Ice_Cap and other pub bird duelers who duel above the right and left safes

Seriously, you're a moron tone.

Weasels have something like barely 1000 energy, if that, one Lanc shot does 1000 or more damage... so how does a Weasel live? Let's try some math shall we? 1000 or less - 1000 or more = 0 or less, so oops, Weasel dead.

Also, about you're thrusting technique, cute, but no, still not possible.

And.. funny, you are such a hypocrite. We're you so pissed off that Weasels were killing you while you spawned/sniped/camped/dueled in spawn area, which was why you bitched so hard in the first place. Now, you're doing the exact samething, and there's not much difference between 'unlimited' cloak/stealth, and being on radar for a split second. Funny how it's ok for you to 'mess' with players, but they couldn't fuck up your fun.

Again, as others have said.

Fuck you tone.

EDIT:
Sadly though, there really is no point to all this. No matter what anyone claims or says, staff bowed down and sucked your cock to shut you up. There was nothing staff was going to do to the Weasel until you started bitching, and now the game and the players have suffered a price, maybe not that big in the grand scheme of things, but a price nonetheless, just to get your cock sucked. Enjoy acting like a child, giving a shit eating grin when he gets what he wants and fucking everyone else over. Just don't be surprised if people take a certain pleasure in destroying you in game, and perhaps even in life in whatever you life is, if you act like this.

Y0 Pure, what's up?

[Sarien]

You are wrong.

This is why you are wrong:
There has been a cloaker in SS from the start. Look up what SVS Spider settings are all about. True, TW is a different zone, but..

Ships are not about how fair they are to fight each other ship. Ships aren't about how well or able any person is able to use any single tactic. Ships aren't even about how they're able to defend against the tactic of another ship. Each ship has a function, and abilities to perform that function. The whole idea of "balance" as espoused by people who have little notion of what exactly that means other than "weaker or stronger to make game gooder" is kind of bullshit. Balance in the case of this game, is simply put, not making the function and abilities of any ship so easily overpowering as to cause a disproportionate disruption in gameplay.

Does that mean there is only one way to fix such a problem? Not at all.
I'll go so far reaching as to accept the notion that spawning with cloak and stealth and having no drain for those were overpowered.

Why not:
Drop spawning with Cloak, but let it be greened. After it's greened, it still causes no drain, as per the old settings. But the ship only spawns with stealth. This means that an X will have to do some build up before it can cloak and stealth (like the old SVS spider), and a death will knock it back to that stealth only status. This would seem to give the best benefit of both worlds.

The players that want to play with full on cloak can work to earn it, and much like a lev there's a time period to nullify it before it gets there. The players that don't need or want to full cloak can use the increased (over the old small one with rocket) maneuverability and shot speed.

But what about warbird?
The warbird has the time period before the cloak is greened to deal with the X just like the other ships. It just so happens that four other ships have a better ability to deal with X after cloaking is gained. And also.. give javs their X-radar back.

There is after all a reason why all the ships aren't exactly the same.

[SpiderMage]

You are wrong.

This is why you are wrong:
There has been a cloaker in SS from the start. Look up what SVS Spider settings are all about. True, TW is a different zone, but..

Ships are not about how fair they are to fight each other ship. Ships aren't about how well or able any person is able to use any single tactic. Ships aren't even about how they're able to defend against the tactic of another ship. Each ship has a function, and abilities to perform that function. The whole idea of "balance" as espoused by people who have little notion of what exactly that means other than "weaker or stronger to make game gooder" is kind of bullshit. Balance in the case of this game, is simply put, not making the function and abilities of any ship so easily overpowering as to cause a disproportionate disruption in gameplay.

Does that mean there is only one way to fix such a problem? Not at all.
I'll go so far reaching as to accept the notion that spawning with cloak and stealth and having no drain for those were overpowered.

Why not:
Drop spawning with Cloak, but let it be greened. After it's greened, it still causes no drain, as per the old settings. But the ship only spawns with stealth. This means that an X will have to do some build up before it can cloak and stealth (like the old SVS spider), and a death will knock it back to that stealth only status. This would seem to give the best benefit of both worlds.

The players that want to play with full on cloak can work to earn it, and much like a lev there's a time period to nullify it before it gets there. The players that don't need or want to full cloak can use the increased (over the old small one with rocket) maneuverability and shot speed.

But what about warbird?
The warbird has the time period before the cloak is greened to deal with the X just like the other ships. It just so happens that four other ships have a better ability to deal with X after cloaking is gained. And also.. give javs their X-radar back.

There is after all a reason why all the ships aren't exactly the same.

Sarien, you are the wind beneath my spaceship wings.

[Tone]

On another name i have about 120 more wins than loses using all weasel. they maunover so fast and well, harder to hit, fit through holes, fire while thrusting, multi L3 bullets, this ship is powerful and no wonder im doing well in it and enjoying it. Anyone enjoys a powerful space ship im sure. Who ever said im lying, no im not lying, i really do use the ship and kill plenty more than kill me, mostly by thursting and firing, second mostly by being able to manuover so well and fast, the ship can make fast direction changes many times better than any other ship.

They see me when i stealth thurst and fire. Not hypocrite, weasel is actually in the game now, rather all than all of the time being right on top of a ship with everything turned on , then firing. Thank goodness the game keeps getting better and better for us all. The settings wernt even changed for a majority who likes it, they were changed because who runs this game wanted settings that make a lot more sense and are fair & balanced. Now i think ill let this thread, the final tone thread on weasels, rest. Long live fair & balanced trenchwars.