a TWLB dream

[death row]

I have a dream, a basing league where squads use more than just 3 ships.
Basing isn't just about sharks that can repel for their spiders and terriers
that can hide behind the thugs. Basing is about the diversity of each of the
8 ships in Trench Wars. Each ship has it's function, weakness and strength.
So why not use them?

Wouldn't it be interesting and FUN to learn new tricks as a TEAM and make new
roles in the lineup? I personally am tired of 5 spiders shooting at each other,
killing as much as you can and repeating the same thing again and again.

In my opinion TWLB needs something new, more competitive squads, no more
15:00 - 00:42 games. My proposal is that TWLB would have a 4 spider limit and
the 8th ship could be a warbird, a javelin or a lancaster.

Random events, lag, strays, ignored reps and luck are part of the basing,
EVEN on "professional" level. That's the reason we got interested in this
game, a chance for a lucky win. But I'm not saying that if TWLB had a spider
limit the squad with better luck would win, no, it would be the squad that
has more versatile talent. More key players that can deliver, not just the
mob that hides behind the sharks and corners.

Am I wrong?

Seems good to me. But I think a lot of people might be nervous about that because there aren't as many elite/capable javs to play like spiders. I know for us, we'd just use 4 very good spiders, and stick Domi in jav. And how many can match Domi in basejav? Nobody, IMO. There are some other real good ones, but not at that level. So if you play 5-spiders, it gives a lot of teams their best chance when it comes to winning.

I'd be okay with either way.

[Kawrae]

If it is 4 spids max, you may aswell turn on your limewire, convince your friend mod that it's normal lag and just rep_rocket_lag the whole cram with a nice 8 fer. I know lag is one thing that makes this game so unpredictable but this would only encourage lagmonsters. Skill+lag are the factors you need to have to be a top player as we can see (Sika, Domi, Mega Newbie for example).

Now almost everyone knows that 5 spiders usually win 4 spids and 1 jav. But yah, rather add 9th ship than make a spid limit.

What Ara said about those random events.. lag.. luck.. rep ignores.. Wait until your steady cram gets owned again and again by some unskilled brasilian lagmonster. Ah i see, sure that is the FUN you were talking about.

You may disagree

[Doc Flabby]

they should bring the small cloakers from pub and allow them in twbd. They would make cramming more difficult.

ship limits. why limit a team to 2 sharks and 1 terrer. why limit any ship number. Limiting the ships has resulted in limited gameplay.

[Fluffz]

why not nerf the spider instead?

[Hero*]

lol kaws right. that would be annoying as fuck. play with whatever you want, stop setting limits on what we can do. Hell make it legal for 2 terrs to play if you really want something different.

[MousE]

< agrees with hero the people whining about this are all big time losers of last league btw not all of us find spiders boring its the people that get owned in an all spider game that are complainng. And why brind javs/wbs into basing u can use em if u want but then ld and lj r getting boring we should get some spiders and lancs into those leagues and force wb/jav limits gimme a break :P I've seen synd last elague win a lot with necro jav so it still is possible stop ur fucking whining abotu limits :P

[MetalKid]

It would be more fun if you forced:
1 Terr
2 Sharks
3 Spiders
2 Javs
2 WBs
2 Non Terr, Shark, Levi ships.
------
12 Ships.

This would give people the power to have 5 spiders if they really wanted to, but it would make basing fun to watch as there would be some variance in the stuff that happened. The only downside is that getting 12 ppl to play might be difficult.

[MousE]

^ damn newbs

[ajaxee]

every year i cry about this 5 spider game bullshit, untill we see a 3 spider limit, all twlb will remain boring and useless.

[freddie]

< agrees with hero the people whining about this are all big time losers of last league btw not all of us find spiders boring its the people that get owned in an all spider game that are complainng. And why brind javs/wbs into basing u can use em if u want but then ld and lj r getting boring we should get some spiders and lancs into those leagues and force wb/jav limits gimme a break :P I've seen synd last elague win a lot with necro jav so it still is possible stop ur fucking whining abotu limits :P

Agreed, Mambo was crap last season.

[Pressure Drop]

in my head one day before i seen this, i was thinking about what would interest me to see in a twdb game was ...


with the 8 ships have a max ship count for all ships like hte way it is atm for 1 terr 2 sharks etc


but have it like this

2 wb
2 jav
3 spid
1 lev
1 terr
1 weasle
2 lanc
1 shark

if you overhauled the lev and weasle to make interesting basing ships this would lead to a huge variation of stratigies

of course its to radicle for you ppl

[Jrahen]

why would i want to play basinggames with those settings? rather go pubs and play with those you mention.

[Dreamwin]

Im totally agree with ara, TWLB needs that bad. We should give it a try.

[Troll King]

What about lowering the teams sizes and getting rid of limits altogether? That could open up the game a bit. Making it 5 on 5 would put it in line with the other leagues, which might help to give league and squad organization more structure. Plus it'd be close to what you'd see in a regular pub; removing all ship limits as well would bring it even closer to pubs. There'd be fewer spiders too (teams would still be able to load up on them, but it'd be less effective than it is now), which could also make other ships like the WB and lanc more effective. If 5v5 is too low for more conservative players, it doesn't have to be that low.

I cringe at the ideas others have about raising it to 12v12 or 15v15 though, because that would result in crowded flag room battles, and very likely more lag. The base just isn't built to support that many ships in such close quarters. Lowering the team sizes however would provide more space which would put more emphasis on skill and less on filling the air with as many red bullets as you can.

[Hero*]

if everyone is angry at the 8v8 5spid and the 15:00-1:00 games then maybe its not the ships but the map. Personally I like the 5spiders and the map but everyone else seems to dislike the 'boring' style of base.