How to fix the zone.

[Killer Soldier]

Kolar your doing an excellent job. Oh and since upperstaff is doing such a WONDERFUL job we should see the population start rising.... rising.. damnit its not rising!

[Killer Soldier]

you can bitch about staff problem all you want, but hosted events is one you need to leave off now. if anyone still bitch about not enough events getting hosted since the hiring of left_eye and chao, then you just dont play this game enough and don't know whats happening. And when you dont know whats going on, you should be posting on how to make this zone better

I don't know why this guy even talks. Seriously.

[kthx]

I guess it is too much to ask for this to turn into a thread that upper staff can read to understand how people see things as of right now, because I know when it gets to the flaming it will just be ignored.

Nethila, that is one of things I was talking about, you say "if you have any problems since the hiring of Chao and Left" But.. what happens if one of them leaves for whatever reason, can you really rely on two hosts to supply the majority of players in this zone with enough events to keep them satisfied? And Sumpson, I wouldn't want regular players and captains to be running these squads, I am talking about staffers who are on the books as "captaining" another squad, and no I don't think that they should be allowed to play for that squad at all, just coach them, teach them how to play, anything they need to show physically can be done in a private arena with the squad. You are making it seem like, well what gen said basically, another squad to bd with when your first squad is offline. Besides BDing for them doesn't help them at all. And one last thing, Nethila people know alot more then upper staff probaly expects, mods and smods are on squads where they tell people things, people are friends with smods and mods, things get leaked pretty quickly. And even when they don't it doesn't take a genius to figure out what ISN'T going on.

[Shadowmere]

you can bitch about staff problem all you want, but hosted events is one you need to leave off now. if anyone still bitch about not enough events getting hosted since the hiring of left_eye and chao, then you just dont play this game enough and don't know whats happening. And when you dont know whats going on, you should be posting on how to make this zone better

I think it was brought up, that even if 1 or 2 people host events, even they have their own lives, and it's also been brought up, that the hosted events has decreased by A LOT in the past year or few.

Even if Lefty and Chao host "a lot" (I only see Lefty do this), it doesnt hurt to get a few replacements to those ER's that dont even come online once a day i.e. ZzLifezZ <ER>

Sertifi> ?find zzlifezz <ER>
Not online, last seen 27 hours ago
Sertifi> ?find punk <ER>
Not online, last seen 37 hours ago
Sertifi> ?find royst <ER>
Not online, last seen more than 10 days ago
Sertifi> ?find caco <ER>
Not online, last seen more than 10 days ago

Same for ZH's

Sertifi> ?find TSM <ZH>
Not online, last seen more than 10 days ago

This isnt a personal attack towards you neth, nor against anyone else either. But in the end it's _better_ to do something to these problems.

Might be hard for deans to decide new staffers, but it doesnt hurt to try.

EDIT: And there are some ER's that come online that I didnt list because of activity, but they still dont host.

Genocidal, *thumbs up* you'll figure out something some day.

EDIT:

Sertifi> ?find adamant <ZH>
Not online, last seen 21 hours ago
Sertifi> ?find herik <ZH>
Not online, last seen 6 days ago
Sertifi> ?find server <ZH>
Not online, last seen 7 days ago

[genocidal]

Still, nobody wants you on staff.

[Voth]

you can bitch about staff problem all you want, but hosted events is one you need to leave off now. if anyone still bitch about not enough events getting hosted since the hiring of left_eye and chao, then you just dont play this game enough and don't know whats happening. And when you dont know whats going on, you should be posting on how to make this zone better

So out of 18 ER's that are listed as staff on the TW site, you're satisfied with TWO of them actively hosting?

[PH]

you say "if you have any problems since the hiring of Chao and Left" But.. what happens if one of them leaves for whatever reason

ph> ?find chao <ER>
Not online, last seen 10 days ago

Uh oh!

[Jerome Scuggs]

someone recopy the Communist Manifesto and replace "proles" with "veterans" and "burgeoisie" with "newbs"

[Voth]

Qan?

[Shadowmere]

Qan?

Retired a long time ago as he got tired of doing so much for "nothing"

[Darkmoor]

Lets not make TWD more complicated with sister-squads and whatnot...

[Scoop]

I get my 50 hosts in per month. Us <ER>'s have been hosting a ton lately. i dont get what yall are getting at.

[Sumpson]

And Sumpson, I wouldn't want regular players and captains to be running these squads, I am talking about staffers who are on the books as "captaining" another squad, and no I don't think that they should be allowed to play for that squad at all, just coach them, teach them how to play, anything they need to show physically can be done in a private arena with the squad. You are making it seem like, well what gen said basically, another squad to bd with when your first squad is offline. Besides BDing for them doesn't help them at all.

Sure you want all staff to bring new comptitive players by setting up squads for them and helping them etc.. why would they do this? what makes them do this?
well they aint now, just telling them to do so wont work.

why restrict it to staff running sister-squads or something? If the captain sucks at coaching/leading, the squad wont last long.


It's hard to coach and teach a team when you can't be a part of it, it is what I have experienced from Quirion.

There have been many times I would have liked to help them by playing allong with them, and this way it would make it much more interesting for people to join squads like Quirion too.

You are right, BDing for them doesn't help, BD(DD/JD)ing with them does help.

If quicksand will start up a squad to feel like controlling and making fun of newbies, I don't think many will join that squad.

I believe by implementing this idea it will be much more interesting to get new competitive players trough a training-squad.

EDIT:

just noticed your post darkmoor, you have a good point, it should not be complicated, especially not since those cadet squads recruit mainly newer players.
On the twd website it should be clearly stated the the squad is a cadet squad, and what a cadet squad means.
"training squad of "%squadname", "%squadname" members are able to help in TWD matches"

[kthx]

I think it should be staff based mainly because there are plenty of members of staff who have years of experience in their respective ships, also with running squads, and the fact that being able to run one of these squads would be something that would raise the respect level of staff among the newer generation, which will be a problem with the way most of talk about it. It will also promote staff for people who actually want to help do this, IE bring a few extra good staffers who actually want to help to staff to help run one of these squads. It wouldn't just be to help new players get better with TWD although that would be a big part of it, it would also be to start getting respect for staff up, so one day older players won't be so embarassed to be on staff "with a bunch of newbies". I know what you mean when you say that being in the game helps them out, but I don't particularly feel that way honestly. You could get captaincy in ?go base and pick them to show them what you mean from what you tell them in about the same way. Lastly before you jump in on the Quicksand is evil bandwagon, I have already volunteered QS this season to recruit 2-3 players who have a chance of being good and teaching them how to play and team, and if one of them shows exceptional skill at picking out certain things, maybe teach them how to captain a squad well. Hopefully this answers all the questions you have.

[Voth]

Retired a long time ago as he got tired of doing so much for "nothing"

I'm aware, thanks. I was just calling for him.