Distension Beta Suggestions/Bugfix thread

[Mjollnir]

My Javelin is broken. When I check the !armory I get a blank space where my bomb upgrades used to be. It is something like this:
Distension> 7: N/A

A normal !armory line looks like this:
Distension> 6: Rear Defense System ( 1 / 2 ) 55 Rank 60

I also had red bombs instead of yellows and and I didn't have the UPs from the supposedly scrapped yellow bombs. I tried to play around with it a bit:

Mjollnir> !scrap 7
Distension> null [] downgraded to level 0. +0UP to army allowance.

... Then I checked the armory and it was the same as before. Then more testing:

Mjollnir> !scrap 7
Distension> You haven't exactly upgraded that, now have you?
Mjollnir> !u 7
Distension> You've upgraded that one as much as you can.

I just wanted to play around with the new nerfed Jav to verify that it was nerfed too much but I guess I'll wait until this is fixed.

[Lizard Fuel]

Played for about 15 minutes today, was by no means anywhere among the first people playing, and got removed so others could play. I waited a few minutes, got in the queue to get back in. When I got the message that I could play again, it immediately removed me again for other people to play. Tried this for 20 minutes, gave up and quit. If ppl who want to play dont have any choice but to spec, I think there should at least be a way to tweak ur !hangar while u wait. All i wanted to do was !upgrade my terr.

[Joku Ugo]

Do you keep statistics of what ship is each player's favourite ship? When the teams are randomized, they should be randomized in a fair way such that both teams get an equal amount of players who prefer sharking and players who prefer terring. It sucks when you end up on a freq where nobody wants to shark or terr. Or if they try anyway, they start from level 0. That's just an automatic loss for every round. The winning freq can't even assist the losing one because the teams may be "balanced" due to the levels of the fighter ships (but which are worthless without sharks and terrs).

[Chao.]

Do you keep statistics of what ship is each player's favourite ship? When the teams are randomized, they should be randomized in a fair way such that both teams get an equal amount of players who prefer sharking and players who prefer terring. It sucks when you end up on a freq where nobody wants to shark or terr. Or if they try anyway, they start from level 0. That's just an automatic loss for every round. The winning freq can't even assist the losing one because the teams may be "balanced" due to the levels of the fighter ships (but which are worthless without sharks and terrs).

http://www.trenchwars.org/distension/statistics.php

That's a list of at least the top 5 and I guess the rest are available and could be used somehow...but that plan doesnt make much since because those players could always just fly another ship.

[meddi]

Dug, I don't know if this is explained elsewhere, so maybe you could tell me really simply here: Why is it difficult to drop mines in places other than on the flag (where it's disabled by tiles anyway)? It's weird to explain- it's like I have to stop hitting all the other keys except for the mine ones to get them to do it properly sometimes. Is rush-mining something you wanted to stop or is this problem just in my head?

I have no problem "rush-mining"; however, I don't use default key settings. It may be a similar situation to the pub weasel where you need to alter the default keys for repel to be able to thrust+shoot.

[2kill]

I think its the doors that the ops control... when I try to lay where they are it doesn't work even if your still...when I remeber this and move a bit it always works thats my two pennys worth

[Joku Ugo]

but that plan doesnt make much since because those players could always just fly another ship.

Sure, they might. But many people seem to be playing one or two ships, so it should be possible to make it much more unlikely that no one on one freq wants to terr or shark. I think that's well worth striving for, even if it's not a perfect solution.

[gdugwyler]

• New Terr !summon ability. Terrs can summon players who are not in the FR to their current location. This ability is given to all Officers, as it is an order, but can also be "upgraded" in the same way as an ability. So you can purchase it pre-Officer for the first level if you wish, and it will bump to the second level. The second level allows summoning of sharks by using '!summon s'. The third and final level allows even currently dead players to be summoned, essentially reviving them instantly. (Note that this requires many, many round wins and the investment in the ability.) Each level also reduces the delay time between summons.
• !summon for non-Terrs toggles whether or not Terrs can use this order on you.
• Terriers now receive 8% regen of bursts per level of the ability, rather than 10%. Ports still are regen'd at 10%/level.

[Mjollnir]

Three things:

- My Jav lost 50 UPs because of the bomb upgrade bug. I did !scrapall * and had 500 UPs at level 55. The yellow bombs cost 50 so the error obviously comes from that. I also just realized I may have lost RP from !scrapall by testing this stuff out. I was at like 97% of the level and it took an eternity to get there. Sigh. I am of course hoping that !scrapall doesn't take RP anymore.. anyone know?

- The bot crashed today. The most likely reason for the crash was that I was sitting on top of the flag with my cloaker and a shark tried to take the flag. That resulted in a huge amount of flag changes in a short amount of time and most likely caused the bot to crash. I think this has happened at least once before.

- I still didn't get to test my Jav because of the missing UPs incident. It would be nice if some of the Javs would comment on the latest yellow bomb nerf. I have heard comments about the bombs taking way too much energy now. I also don't understand the need for the 2nd nerf since I didn't hear people complaining after the 1st one.

[PH]

8% isn't enough, i'm still choking on bursts any time i go near the flagroom. i know terrs need some sort of self-defense, but this is really getting out of hand.

oh, and for the love of god, please do the same thing to ports. a terr getting away from me once, maybe twice, ok, i can live with that. but it's pretty stupid when they're warping away from 5 or 6 consecutive shots. i understand they put a lot of UPs into it and all that, so spare me that textual diarrhea.

[dako]

Suggestion to ops - Maybe a small assist % for enemies who are killed while sphered/blinded/etc?

It takes me forever to level after 30 it seems, and considering terrs have a higher RP leech and they kill a lot, it takes me 4 times as long to level in my OPs than it does in my terr. :/

And I agree with ph, id rather have a terr get 5 bursts than 5 portals any day.

[jngy slate]

How do you know if you're an officer?

[jngy slate]

8% isn't enough, i'm still choking on bursts any time i go near the flagroom. i know terrs need some sort of self-defense, but this is really getting out of hand.

oh, and for the love of god, please do the same thing to ports. a terr getting away from me once, maybe twice, ok, i can live with that. but it's pretty stupid when they're warping away from 5 or 6 consecutive shots. i understand they put a lot of UPs into it and all that, so spare me that textual diarrhea.

You're not thinking with portals.

[Mjollnir]

8% isn't enough, i'm still choking on bursts any time i go near the flagroom. i know terrs need some sort of self-defense, but this is really getting out of hand.

oh, and for the love of god, please do the same thing to ports. a terr getting away from me once, maybe twice, ok, i can live with that. but it's pretty stupid when they're warping away from 5 or 6 consecutive shots. i understand they put a lot of UPs into it and all that, so spare me that textual diarrhea.

Agreed. Unlimited portals (for all practical purposes) was one of the original reasons for suggesting the summon ability. It's purpose was to give the Terrier something new so we could reduce the amount of things like portals and other abilities. And having less bursts flying around is always good for basing since it reduces the luck factor.

[alinea]

8% isn't enough, i'm still choking on bursts any time i go near the flagroom. i know terrs need some sort of self-defense, but this is really getting out of hand.

oh, and for the love of god, please do the same thing to ports. a terr getting away from me once, maybe twice, ok, i can live with that. but it's pretty stupid when they're warping away from 5 or 6 consecutive shots. i understand they put a lot of UPs into it and all that, so spare me that textual diarrhea.

You can't just keep nerfing the terr until you're able to kill them under any circumstance :P

The Distension Terrier needs what it has to protect against rocketting weasels, rocketting javs, shrap, one kill bullets coming from lancs, wbs (who else has blue bullets at this point)? Not to mention the nme terrier AND lanc bursts, cloaking and bullet firing sharks, super spiders, etc etc etc. It's tough being a terr. A live terr anyway. Most especially with ph flying all over your ass.

-ali