?go Wbs

[Zeebu]

?go javs contributed to the death of baseelim.

We do not want to see the death of ?go elim. (and you can not prove to me that it WILL not do that.)

And Unfortunately I can not tell you WHICH smods said no. (There was more than one). What I can do is, I will do all I can to ensure that we TRY to do this. to see what happens. Even as a test, we should be able to see benefits and costs of this idea.

god damn it.

talking to staff is like running headlong into a brick wall over and over again.

edit: responded before you added on the last line. yes, so you do understand. and i will fully support either decision made. that is provided that both arenas end up the same when its all said and done. either a bot in each, or neither.

[H.M.S. Stargazer]

god damn it.

talking to staff is like running headlong into a brick wall over and over again.

Yes, well we also dont want to be impetuous. Decisions need to be discussed and all the information gathered. Which way is BETTER? Getting rid of ?go javs bot. Or adding a bot to ?go wb?

[Zeebu]

Yes, well we also dont want to be impetuous. Decisions need to be discussed and all the information gathered. Which way is BETTER? Getting rid of ?go javs bot. Or adding a bot to ?go wb?

i dont care which is better.

as long as its not decided to keep it as it is. i am 100% on board whichever decision that makes the two arenas the same.

[Aquatiq]

Why are you so adamant about both arenas being "equal"? Maybe if people showed up to ?go wbs of their own volition and played there for a while, like they did in ?go javs, it would get a bot eventually.

[H.M.S. Stargazer]

Why are you so adamant about both arenas being "equal"? Maybe if people showed up to ?go wbs of their own volition and played there for a while, like they did in ?go javs, it would get a bot eventually.

I have to agree, If you go to tourny, you will see the javs OVERWHELMINGLY rule the voting for the most part.

More people enjoy the javelin.

[Zeebu]

Why are you so adamant about both arenas being "equal"? Maybe if people showed up to ?go wbs of their own volition and played there for a while, like they did in ?go javs, it would get a bot eventually.

Awesome. another one of those brick wall comments.

me 'hey lets try to bring the wb and jav populations back together a little bit'

staff 'lol, fuck off. no.'

edit2: responding to aqua again. what would the big loss be if we put a bot in ?go wbs for a little while then noone comes? so what? all it needs to be is teh same bot that is in ?go javs, minus the bar warp. just a wb streak bot. if noone likes it, it wouldnt get played.

edit:

I have to agree, If you go to tourny, you will see the javs OVERWHELMINGLY rule the voting for the most part.

More people enjoy the javelin.

are there stats that show how many total javs games are voted to how many total wb games?

[Aquatiq]

You're obviously very passionate about this, and this may be the internet, but just like in real life if you conduct yourself like a jackass nothing gets done, even if you may be right.

So how about explaining why making both ?go javs and ?go wbs the same, bot-wise, will bring the jav and wb population closer together.

[Zeebu]

You're obviously very passionate about this, and this may be the internet, but just like in real life if you conduct yourself like a jackass nothing gets done, even if you may be right.

So how about explaining why making both ?go javs and ?go wbs the same, bot-wise, will bring the jav and wb population closer together.

because with some hope, it may end up bringing the elim arenas back together too.

i mean, our twdd and twjd rules are the same, why wouldnt the way you learn the ships be the same?

[H.M.S. Stargazer]

because with some hope, it may end up bringing the elim arenas back together too.

i mean, our twdd and twjd rules are the same, why wouldnt the way you learn the ships be the same?

Type ?go

Then you will have equal rules for learning the ships.

[Zeebu]

so, to recap the thread:

staff asks 'why?'
and i ask 'why not?'

then staff answers back with 'because i said so'

and it pretty much gets left with that.

[Aquatiq]

I just thought it might not be all that unrealistic to ask for the players to take some initiative and show staff that they really want this. Again, that's how javs got its bot, it was pretty amazing that with no help from staff, people came there and played there on their own. I wouldn't be opposed to putting a bot in ?go wbs, and explicitly stating that 'THIS IS A TEST'. But understand that there would need to be a loooooooong period of consistent activity there if we were to decide to make it permanent. The support we're getting for this on the forums does not reflect what we're seeing in the game, so I'm guessing you guys aren't going to go there if there's no bot :/

[H.M.S. Stargazer]

I just thought it might not be all that unrealistic to ask for the players to take some initiative and show staff that they really want this. Again, that's how javs got its bot, it was pretty amazing that with no help from staff, people came there and played there on their own. I wouldn't be opposed to putting a bot in ?go wbs, and explicitly stating that 'THIS IS A TEST'. But understand that there would need to be a loooooooong period of consistent activity there if we were to decide to make it permanent. The support we're getting for this on the forums does not reflect what we're seeing in the game, so I'm guessing you guys aren't going to go there if there's no bot :/

Just a thought, why COULDNT we put a bot there to draw people?

We do that for tourny, we do that for elim and base elim. We do that for timed pub.

If a bot will draw people to an arena, what is the harm?

[Aquatiq]

I think I just said it'd be ok to test it. Remember, it's another bot we have to service and maintain. Just want to make sure it is worth it.

[Zeebu]

Just a thought, why COULDNT we put a bot there to draw people?

We do that for tourny, we do that for elim and base elim. We do that for timed pub.

If a bot will draw people to an arena, what is the harm?

success!

the appeal of ?go javs was a place to warm up and practice shots before a jd or lj match. its still great for that but with the added fun of the streaks and the convenience of bar warp.

wouldnt it be great to have an arena where you can go in and just work on your aim and dodging a little without waiting? wouldnt it also be great to take that fun streak aspect and apply it to ship 1 as well?

[Aquatiq]

Haha I gotta say though, the arena needs to be worked on. You spawn in an "I"? You have to fly out of a box? I think the arena could be made a bit more interesting, unless there is some kind of genius behind this design that I can't grasp.