Warbird Life!

[RiiStar]

Well then, don't mind me, just defending something that alot of time was put into creating...
Continue on with the wbs discussion...

[Xp.]

Well then, don't mind me, just defending something that alot of time was put into creating...
Continue on with the wbs discussion...

Riistar wbduel bot for ?go warbirds?

[Vys]

you can't just change something like twdd and twld whats been running consistantly for years. ?go warbird is like an oversize jav map; It's like changing ?go twjd into the ?go tourny wb map. the warbird ship was made for rushing/mid-range/sniping, not hiding behind walls and straying.
I like how all the people who like this idea, are completely useless at this game and can't get good, so try and twist maps and stuff so they have a chance.

[Xp.]

you can't just change something like twdd and twld whats been running consistantly for years. ?go warbird is like an oversize jav map; It's like changing ?go twjd into the ?go tourny wb map. the warbird ship was made for rushing/mid-range/sniping, not hiding behind walls and straying.
I like how all the people who like this idea, are completely useless at this game and can't get good, so try and twist maps and stuff so they have a chance.

vys how many times do i have to tell u that NOTHING is being changed..all i want is to see a wbduel bot in ?go warbirds and see what kinda responses it gets and then after responses if it has alot of good to b POSSIBLY considerd for leagues nothing that has got to happen in a week but maybe a period of time to inprove population and draw more attention to zone

[dads revenge]

Holy shit ya know alot of ppl like ?go boki lets make that the twlb map woohoo. its an event map you will not drive it past the leaguers. Its a good event but not set up in TWD fasion (yeah I know its different,new,exciting) like the average dueler would play.

[Galaxy Turbo]

There has been many threads trying to revive ?go warbirds, placing a bot in there and having the same activity as ?go javs or something...

But what you need to look at xp, is the current efforts being made to unite jav/baseelim (And warbird/elim players respectively) in new elimbeta arenas. Once we nail the whole elim scene, warbirds will also be able to play in a similar fashion to ?go javs players in elim (If you've lost me then read again).

It could be said that the top arena in (b)elimbeta arenas can be changed every now and again to mix things up, but as I say, it would never extend to leagues, for the pure and simple fact that something standard which has been kept constant for many years is still successful, there's no reason to change anything.

[Xp.]

There has been many threads trying to revive ?go warbirds, placing a bot in there and having the same activity as ?go javs or something...

But what you need to look at xp, is the current efforts being made to unite jav/baseelim (And warbird/elim players respectively) in new elimbeta arenas. Once we nail the whole elim scene, warbirds will also be able to play in a similar fashion to ?go javs players in elim (If you've lost me then read again).

It could be said that the top arena in (b)elimbeta arenas can be changed every now and again to mix things up, but as I say, it would never extend to leagues, for the pure and simple fact that something standard which has been kept constant for many years is still successful, there's no reason to change anything.

hmm if there has been so many threads on this arena that obviously means that the public wants to see new changes to tw and i feal that part of are population loss is due to not keeping up with what the general population wants... it wrong to vote on something in a staff chat where the majority of the game dont even have access too...all im asking is for a poll and see what the results show

[StarKitty]

hmm if there has been so many threads on this arena that obviously means that the public wants to see new changes to tw and i feal that part of are population loss is due to not keeping up with what the general population wants... it wrong to vote on something in a staff chat where the majority of the game dont even have access too...all im asking is for a poll and see what the results show

I have to say that part of our population loss is due to the fact that even at PEAK times the population of the entirety of SS is less than TW's' previous population.

SS needs advertising or - slowly - the game will die.

[milosh]

It could be said that the top arena in (b)elimbeta arenas can be changed every now and again to mix things up, but as I say, it would never extend to leagues, for the pure and simple fact that something standard which has been kept constant for many years is still successful, there's no reason to change anything.

I agree with this and plan on changing the upper arena of elimbeta to see how players respond. The casual arena isn't very popular as is and so if it flops no harm no foul. Xp., TW is currently having trouble keeping a solid amount of players in its current arenas. If we create yet another arena that only a few players like it will stretch us more and more thin. Let's instead talk about how we can improve current arenas(like elimbeta, belimbeta and others) to bring everyone to satisfaction.

[KrynetiX]

I personally think there's a completely different style of warbirding that lends itself to an arena with walls and small spaces.

The open arena allows the fundamental style that's evolved and changed over the years... Maybe it's time to mix this up a bit?

Walls allow for feints, a different style rush, it forces close quarter combat panic situations with the emphasis on outmaneuvering your opponents turning speed. There's still scope for sniping and those beautiful perfectly executed long range through hole shots.

I'd love to see some testing done with this... Maybe an arena + bot (the existing twd bot could be used) created purely for just playing this? - It doesn't need to be recorded - I'd like to see how it fairs up in 5v5 and what kind of tactics and ideas teams come up with.

milosh, this arena won't hurt anything

[Galaxy Turbo]

milosh, this arena won't hurt anything

I'm going to put this into perspective.

Let's just take an example to illustrate what we mean (Just some example numbers here), if we have 50 elim players, we don't want about 5 arenas to accommodate them, or else each arena will have 10 players. 10 players isn't much fun and people will leave elim.

We want to unite players in ONE arena, the more players, the more action, the more fun, and the more players will come.

And so introducing ?go warbirds is harmful, seeing as the top arena in elimbeta will make room for the same type of play. If you want a meaningful idea, changing the top "casual" arena in elimbeta into something possibly (but maybe not) like ?go warbirds, you will have pretty much what you want.


I don't like repeating myself but I feel like I just did. Seriously, the point is not to separate players.

Back to putting it into perspective, If we bring back ?go warbirds and continue to separate populations, this game is going further down the drain. Get the idea?

[Xp.]

hmm if u want to add everyone together y not just add the dueling leagues to there elim maps..for example all jav duels would take part in baselim, all wb duels would take place in regular elim and spider could take part in idk..twsd...and then u could combine map ?go warbirds with map wbduel run 2 games of 5v5 and if that isnt putting everything together then idk what is :P

[Galaxy Turbo]

hmm if u want to add everyone together y not just add the dueling leagues to there elim maps..for example all jav duels would take part in baselim, all wb duels would take place in regular elim and spider could take part in idk..twsd...and then u could combine map ?go warbirds with map wbduel run 2 games of 5v5 and if that isnt putting everything together then idk what is :P

What you're saying is just impractical, there would be many bots needed to operate in one arena, there'd be too much going on and we don't want to confuse people. We want to unite players in a single arena, but not every kind of player should be thrown under one roof.

You have to be reasonable xp. =)

[Jack]

Arenas like that are more suited to different zones w/ ships that have bouncing bullets, bombs, or just svs settings. If you have places to hide in it's going to cause for some miserably long games where the most skilled person isn't even necessarily going to win, just the most patient. It's not difficult to just sit next to the corner and wait, if you have any bit of skill the person assaulting is never going to kill you.

Before they removed the bar in ?go elim for warbirds many people would just hide around the bar and end up winning due to the other person just specing. Many people did this but Mr.Twister comes to mind and this type of arena just fuels the same type of behavior only 10x worse.

You should try public, ?go base or some of the other zones that fit what you seem to be looking for: DSB, Chaos, Warzone etc.

Have a wonderful day kind sir.

[roxxkatt]

i would like the map with spinning rocks, AND the warbirds map IN ONE ARENA :OOOOOOOOOOOOO

since theres a vote anyways, why not be able to vote which map to play in too? ZOMGOES!