Distension discussion

[Trunks_rage]

Trunks you've said your going to leave the game several times, but you continue to reply to almost every forum post.
Your american arn't you? why the hell are you complaining about the schedule? I only get to play twice a week, on the 1am sessions, the weekend sessions are for people in other countries, not everyone who plays the game is American.
I know the schedule isn't great, I hope they will change it soon, or make it 24/7 with the 2 hour limit per day, then noone would complain.
Leeching should be reduced from 15% --> 10%, not 15% to 5%
lanc is not so overpowered...

For my own health and sanity I'm not going to play anymore. I apologize for lashing out at you Stab, even though I do disagree with what you are doing, it's nothing to get angry about. Maybe if there is a more open schedule some time in the future I will drop in now and then at my leisure. Right now I need that 9pm-11pm slot to myself.

People were picking on the Lanc because they couldn't unlock it, but the ship maxes out at about rank 50 after that it is the exact same ship for another month, while everyone else catches up considerably.

The best suggestion I could make to improve the game is to give the shark a better weapon. It's a total levi clusterfuck, and levis don't deserve support points after rank 45. Sharking needs to be encouraged somehow. The best way I can think of is to give it a better weapon. Speed up its bullets maybe.

-Peace

[blackrazor]

About the whole lanc leech thing:

I don't claim to be an expert on this, in fact quite the opposite. But I've read carefully what others have written, and I don't have an axe to grind on this issue. Would this be accurate:

1) At early levels the lanc is not easy nor quick to level up, so it's not a popular ship.

2) At a mid-range level, the lanc gains some leech upgrades, making it disproportionally powered over a brief range of levels.

3) At later levels, other ships catch up in power, with their various L3 bombs, guns, and specials.

4) The leech is mainly, if not the only useful special going for lanc. Without it, pilots might as well be in another ship with energy tanks, portals, L3 bombs, or whatever.

If all four of these are correct, then would it make more sense to limit when the six levels of leech are granted, rather than dropping max leech from 15% down to 10% or 5%.

Perhaps give the first leech level (1/6) earlier, but delay later leech levels (3/6, 4/6, 5/6, 6/6) to later levels corresponding to when other ships catch up in power.

Or keeping the current levels of leech, but changing the distribution of leech power, so 1/6 to 4/6 gives very small leech upgrades, with the major boosts coming at 5/6 and 6/6.

Perhaps it might be better to try this first, and only if the lanc leech is still found to be overpowered at the highest levels of inter-ship combat (which haven't been achieved yet, in any ship, afaik) would a consideration for dropping max leech be appropriate.

Just my two cents, thanking for reading. Peace.

[TagMor]

Could the Dist Mods stop being antagonistic douchebags for one moment, and explain why they think they can ignore standard TW procedure, and ban people without warning??

[getting pwned]

Could the Dist Mods stop being antagonistic douchebags for one moment, and explain why they think they can ignore standard TW procedure, and ban people without warning??

Careful TagMor. The font police will bust you for using a different font.

[Aquatiq]

Could the Dist Mods stop being antagonistic douchebags for one moment, and explain why they think they can ignore standard TW procedure, and ban people without warning??

stfu

[Liquid Blue]

hahahahaha owned

[project dragon]

Angry words and angry fonts do not help staff members care about your concerns very much

[roxxkatt]

Could the Dist Mods stop being antagonistic douchebags for one moment, and explain why they think they can ignore standard TW procedure, and ban people without warning??

stfu

Could the Dist Mods stop being antagonistic douchebags for one moment, and explain why they think they can ignore standard TW procedure, and ban people without warning??

lol

Could the Dist Mods stop being antagonistic douchebags for one moment, and explain why they think they can ignore standard TW procedure, and ban people without warning??

lets quote large text boxes and say four letters like the pros we are

[Stabwound]

Just as a reminder for the non-American players:

The EST timezone is now experiencing Daylight Saving Time in which our clocks go ahead an hour. What this means to you is that Distension will be starting an hour earlier than it usually does if you're not in a timezone that uses DST.

[Viruk]

Just as a reminder for the non-American players:

The EST timezone is now experiencing Daylight Saving Time in which our clocks go ahead an hour. What this means to you is that Distension will be starting an hour earlier than it usually does if you're not in a timezone that uses DST.

Even if your timezone uses DST it may not come into effect on the same date as the EST/EDT transition.

If the server observes DST then can we please state in all published schedules that it is EST/EDT rather than just EST. It should also state the correct day of the week even if people in the original timezone may casually think of a slot in the early hours as being late on the previous day.

[DankNuggets]

a move to 10% instead of 5% might be a good idea as a stepping stone. I also like the idea of making the last two upgrades come at a much later stage, so they can look forward to them.

Leech is not the only feature or the best feature of the lanc, don't let them fool you. Yes, it is great, but the firebloom is nasty and the bomb is unpredictible at best, and undodgable at worst.

In fact, when I had lanc in beta, i spent my UP on bloom, energy/recharge and bomb. I didn't care so much about the leech.

And trunks you do nothing but further our point when you say shit like "i'm dominating everyone and I'm bored". No duh, you have the most powerful ship in the game, and are complaining when it gets taken down a notch. The sad thing is it woudn't affect your game that much at all. You'd still continue to dominate in your ship that's lightyears ahead of most others in rank, and the best ship to boot.

[roxxkatt]

the leech is getting nerfed, but the firebloom is going to last longer, as its currently too short, and everyone scraps it.

[project dragon]

If it is going to last longer, I will assume terr bursts will also be lasting longer as well. Will everyone be good with that?

[roxxkatt]

it wont be dramatic, and as terr bursts go, you either get strayed or you dont...

[Viruk]

it wont be dramatic, and as terr bursts go, you either get strayed or you dont...

Bursts already seem to last too long. They come from unexpected directions, they cannot be tanked, if you can dodge them they may still get you on another rebound, repping can make them worse and half the time they are friendlies anyway. I personally prefer to be killed by someones plan even if it was something strayed at a clump of dots on a radar. Being killed by bouncing into some slow shrap or a burst fired in some combat that was over seconds ago is very annoying.

Looking at the top 10 it is easy to see that terriers are already overpowered. Anything that helps them kill more will make it worse as well as make terrier RP less dependent on supporting their team. This overpowered leveling is perhaps justified by their value to a basing team but that value will be reduced if terriers are dying more to each others bursts and care less about winning.

You may argue that it is only a small change but it is like taking a little weight off the lighter side of tipped scales and moving it to the heavier.

I would much rather deal with leeching. It is predictable and its effects can be countered by dodging, repping, tanking, 1-shot killing or indirect fire.

If lancs have been overpowered at least they are rare and require considerable skill, luck or a high level ship to acquire. A slight overpowering in order to catch up with the levels of other ships after unlocking seems justified too.

Despite supposedly being flown by more lucky or skillful pilots and being rare enough to avoid swarm/pall penalties the Top 10 does not show lancs to be significantly ahead of their warbird rivals. The top spiders seem slightly weaker but will perhaps catch up when they get L2s and can kill powerful ships more easily. Clearly lancs are not much overpowered at the moment and should suffer no overall nerf unless they start exceeding their Top 10 rivals at high level.
Leeching may help lancs to chew through strings of weaker ships but even 100% leech won't do much for them one on one against a strong ship. Having a maximum of 60% leeching (until very high level) seems about the right amount for a lanc to be able to gamble favourably on getting a full charge without being able to rely on one. This makes for more interesting tactics and shipbuild options. I see no good reason to nerf it yet.

Now I have been reminded what a spider can do with L2 bullets I think that lancs will need all the help they can get to match their killing rate at higher levels. Without any changes the age of lanc dominance is already on its way out before it ever really started.
Well I hope... :P