Settings change

[Troll King]

Question: even with the vulnerability of having no repels, is the average levi still getting big kill ratios, relative to other ships?

[Kage_]

After playing w/ the lev a bit I like the changes w/ the exception of the removal of the reps. I would like to see the reps reinstalled even if that means a removal of one of the rockets.

Kage_

[Fluffz]

the new levi is to powerfull u just fly up left or right even faster and blow that shit up. there isnt even a point in lting anymore since the levi is so fast now. and with rockets and portal is is even easier to kill than with repel and port or if u cant do that u just fly to save and green
tho i must say its more fun now to play levi since u dont have to try to stay alive
anyway remove his port and give him a single (greenable?) repel

[sTuPiD-gErBiL]

what the hell is wrong with you people? the new lev is EASIER to play. it's only harder if you don't know how to dodge or where your rocket button is.

i'm not saying the current lev settings are good or not... but to say it makes the lev impossible to play is just retarded. i can get to base on almost every life now and blast the shit out of enemies and teammates with ease.

[Angel]

?go camelot

The settings in ?go camelot for the Levi is perfect, to change it into a basing ship. Level 2 EMP bombs, increased speed, increased turning, and 2 reps. Nothing else. No radar cloak, no rockets, no portal. The only thing I'd keep the same is the current Levi bullet shot, sort of like the Lancaster shot. (?go camelot has a weird "3-way" shot for Levis.)

Weasels are now the "popular" ship, since they're so tiny. Yesterday in a public map.. I witnessed a team of 10 weasels, that's all there was. No Terrs or other basing ships. Simply return the weasels to normal as they were, and there's no problem with them being overly used or making the basing ships "un-balanced" I should say.

Terrs were thankfully returned to how they were .. So nothing needs to be changed there.

And that's suggestion on this matter.

-Angel <ZH>

[F_You]

LT

Faithful Levis and their terrs create a great friendship. It is not an easy thing to do either. If TW Pubs were pure basing all the time, then a lot of "alternative" players would be excluded.

If TW wants to alienate true LT's, then they will be alienating a small portion of intensely loyal players.

the new settings are interesting, but overall, garbage. Why mess with a good thing?

People complain to no end about LT's but in reality, the balance of power makes them try harder and become better players.

A good levi on a terr only neds one rep at a time, so a good compromise would be 1 rep, 1 rocket and one portal for the levs.

When the changes took place, I lost faith in the game and now dont want to play it anymore...the only thing that keeps me going is the chance that somthing will change to a simblance to what it once was

Pubs without effective LT's are lame.

[za gophar]

What the fucks that supposed to mean.. never mind im not even gonna guess. stop complaining levis, the ship hasnt changed much, its not like the lt is gone. i know the thought of losing your unreasonably high powered ship is scary to you but thats just the way it is.

the real problem is the cloakers. yeah, they suck. remove cloak from trenchwars, but keep the weasel.

[Troll King]

Re: LT

Originally posted by F_You

People complain to no end about LT's but in reality, the balance of power makes them try harder and become better players.

I think that one thing we've seen is that the "balance of power" leans heavily towards levi pilots. Besides, these changes now allow levi pilots to have a chance to try harder and become better players.

[bloodzombie]

You guys are all missing a major point. the problem with the levi has very little to do with its power. The problem is that it's completely irrelevant to any basing strategy. the whole point of a lev is to green up, get on a terr, and blast away at people who are trying to base. They're playing their own game, and ruining ours in the process.

[bounty]

The new settings are interesting to say the least. Rockets on the Levis make for unexpected super fast bombs, and good leap-burst shots with the guns! ONE REPEL wold be nice however, lamers galore (me being one of em) ---as for the Weasel, one tile in size? come on! the no recharge at all while cloaked really limits the long term laming that used to net a good cloaker 200 bty easily.. change the settings back i say >>>see ya on the battlefield =D

[Eeks]

If levi was ever used as basing ship I think the 4 repels would unbalance basing a lot. The 2 rockets and no repels however turn it into a nuclear missile. I bet this new levi could work without any bty limit in some of the biggest public basing maps.

Maybe it could be tried with such bty limit that would make them have to get 1 green before attaching and bombs could be downgraded.

[memeselfi]

i dont know what your trying to do with theses changes.theses changes makes it almost impossible to stay alive in a lev without a ter. you cant even sit in the base without these new "mini-cloakers" comeing in all the holes. and now only 1 rocket?
Change it back.
Change it back.
Change it back.
Change it back.
Change it back.
Change it back.
Change it back.

[Troll King]

Originally posted by Troll King
Question: even with the vulnerability of having no repels, is the average levi still getting big kill ratios, relative to other ships?

I still think this is a relevant question. If levi pilots are now pulling in a 3 to 1 ratio instead of a 5 to 1 ratio, I don't think that their complaints should hold any water.

[Bigwig]

i would really like to see the lev with settings similar to warzone lev settings.

[SuperMet]

Changing the settings of the levi is ridiculous.

This is a coercive attempt by the upper staff, which are predominantly basers, to eliminate the levi to further push the interests of basing.

By changing the levi, and invoking ?go base, all of the hosted basing matches, pure basing weekend, etc., staff is attempting to convert Trench Wars into a basing zone through these ways of indoctrination.

-SuperMet, LevTerr squad