Let's discuss changes that could be made to the base for after TWL

[NaiLed]

Aha, Mike! Dave Gorman owns. I especially liked his thing about the star signs and he had to do exactly what they said, that was his best series thing.

[Randedl]

i still say 4 spider max

[Nickname]

max 4 spiders

[Mayo Inc.]

no no dont max anything else, just try to get good with different lines

[Pure_Luck]

I wouldn't be in favor of 4 spider max. The map change might be a less dramatic way to deal with this. You shouldn't limit the choice of a lineup. Opening the entrance alittle would make it harder and probably make more teams change philosophies. Also, 4 spiders will still allow for cramming so it wouldn't really accomplish your goal.

[ShadowDragons]

I agree with pl. You can still cram with 4 spiders, because it's not the spiders that are not the most important factor in cramming, sharks are. If you have bad sharks you're cram will be useless, they will mine in the wrong places, which could lead to a repped mine breaking your own cram.
Yes cramming with 4 spiders will not be as affective but if you get a jav or wb that plays with the cram it will be just as hard to break.

[Jeansi]

Originally posted by TopGod
IDEA:
"You must play 4 different ships in TWLB."

Think about it. A lot. I think this solution is the most "fair". You're not limiting the number of spiders, or of any ship. Its vague enough that it still gives you a lot of manuverability in your line up without really restricting you. You can play 5 spiders if you really wanted to.

Now that owns. But on the other hand five spiders is a good tactic but limiting shipchoices it is not the solution.
Only way to limit ships is if they would all be balanced and you would have to have 1 of each.

[Mayo Inc.]

While I don't think 4 spider limit is a great idea, I'd still be up to see the rule in affect. We've won plenty of matches without puttin 5 spiders in.

[TopGod]

AHEM. If you limit to atleast 4 different ships, you are essentially limiting everyone to 4 spiders. 1 Terr, 2 Sharks, 4 Spiders, 1 wb/jav.. which is what you guys want, right? BUT, if you really want to, you can also 1 terr 1 shark 5 spider 1 wb/jav for a completely different game.

[Jonas]

Originally posted by TopGod
AHEM. If you limit to atleast 4 different ships, you are essentially limiting everyone to 4 spiders. 1 Terr, 2 Sharks, 4 Spiders, 1 wb/jav.. which is what you guys want, right? BUT, if you really want to, you can also 1 terr 1 shark 5 spider 1 wb/jav for a completely different game.

And doomed to lose. You can't win with 1 shark. No way in hell. Unless of course, the other team plays 1 shark aswell. (Or 2 terrs)

[TopGod]

imagine the 1-shark line on defense, no cram. 5 spiders lining, 1 jav cleaning up the rest...

[TopGod]

And no, it just puts more pressure on the other ships to pick up the 2nd sharks job... Like covering the terr in a fr battle. Only problem i can forsee with that line is breaking into fr. But, ya never know. Diso should try this some time and see how it works :P

[Mayo Inc.]

hmmmm i havent seen those kinda lines have any success top

[TopGod]

when was the last time someone tried it?

[Mayo Inc.]

I think shriek tried it in a few TWLBs... but with 2 javs

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