The New TWSD (twsdx)

[Crescent Seal]

What about this?



Its not to scale as after making it, I realised the height needs doubling at least.
Probably take out the asteroids in the middle to make it smaller so the majority of the game time isint spent traveling.

Flag is the red circle. The grey circles are asteroids.
Round 1, flag appears on left.
Round 2, flag appears on right.
IF there is a round 3, flag appears in the middle.
Or maybe to keep it simple, flag always appears in the middle.

Spawn areas is the grey area. Team 1 on the left, team 2 on the right.

(Im able to make the map, just didnt want to spend time making it if people didnt like the idea.)

3v3 to 8vs8.

i like that idea, flag shud appear in the middle and it would be more fun in your map if you had to take your flag to the other teams side, and yea increase the height

[Exalt]

but as long as we count it the same way we do in like twdd/twjd as in intentionally lagging out or being completely oblivious to your lag before a match and deciding to get played anyways is the only way you will get a +1 90% of the time.

I disagree. I have 50 ms average, never spike .0 .0 almost every day, and every single day I play a game or two and I get +1 lagout for no reason

I think bots have to be programmed wrong in terms of lag limits, because I see players like brokenfist play with 400 ms and eat everything, and players like mongol intentionally spike when they get cornered, and they don't lagout, yet my 50 ms .0 .0 gives me +1

[RiiStar]

Map updated.

You'll notice the top-right and bottom-left "forts" have been opened up.
More room to fight in and less to hide in...

1st game on new map i just watched seemed much better with this change!
Cheers to squads PaxIn and Respect for the help being the 1st testers on the new map.

:wub:

[RiiStar]

Loophole tread combined with orginal TWSD thread...

[Money]

-100 is alot, but as long as we count it the same way we do in like twdd/twjd as in intentionally lagging out or being completely oblivious to your lag before a match and deciding to get played anyways is the only way you will get a +1 90% of the time. So basically if you lagout through a lag you can see in ?lag or by literally speccing you lose 100, but if its something you can't see such as weapons s2c then you just get specced. I think this would probably be best.

how is 100 alot? unless u plan to spec at the end.

[Money]

wow ignite finds and exploits another bug, still not banned

uses gashi, still not banned

and hes hell bent on keeping delectable banned, LOL?


is staff this blind and dumb?

and yea add something to the bot like the dd's where i u press esc s or f11 ur taken out of the game completely or maybe take some points and if its an actual lagout u will be allowed to !lagout

[RiiStar]

Spawns are done in a circle's raduis...
Which makes square maps have a big dissadvantage unless that spawn can be contained inside the square.

So unfortunatly with that map if one team dominates they can spawn the crap out of the other team if they hang out in the spawn...

The idea doesn't look that bad tho...

[Ardour]

What about this?



Its not to scale as after making it, I realised the height needs doubling at least.
Probably take out the asteroids in the middle to make it smaller so the majority of the game time isint spent traveling.

Flag is the red circle. The grey circles are asteroids.
Round 1, flag appears on left.
Round 2, flag appears on right.
IF there is a round 3, flag appears in the middle.
Or maybe to keep it simple, flag always appears in the middle.

Spawn areas is the grey area. Team 1 on the left, team 2 on the right.

(Im able to make the map, just didnt want to spend time making it if people didnt like the idea.)

3v3 to 8vs8.

[Ricko]

3v3: race to 3000
4v4: race to 4000
is there 5s? if so....5000

[Exodius]

Change it to point race depending how many players are in.

Well I would think it should be changed to point race, even if some don't like it. I mean point races would increase people to fight more, instead of having the whole team run away when they get the flag(even though there will probably still be people who do this.) Maybe changing it will get more player interested, and hopefully give more competition to those dominating squads. Even possibly make people like ship 3 instead of hating it like I used to.

But that is just my opinion, just thought I would state my 2 cents.

[Kawrae]

Change it to point race depending how many players are in.

[RiiStar]

wasn't it supposed to be like a duel/basing hybrid? I mean that's why there's flag points and bricks i thought.

Yes that is correct, it was the orginal idea of the whole thing.

The way to fix it is obviously a points race. I've thought this from day one and wondered why this was not the first option. It just seems so obvious that people can exploit the speccing to win thing.

The map needs to be changed slightly to promote fighting. The 2 corners that are closed off need to be opened up. Why promote camping? It makes no sense to me. See who can team and plan out their kills better instead of hiding from the other team. This stuff seems way too trivial to me and I really don't understand why TWSD is like it is at the moment. Such easy and simple changes to make it a really great league.

Basically because we tried to make it half dueling and half basing...
So from basing we took the time race incorporating a flag while points and bonuses came from fighting.

The way we're going it's heading back towards being solely dueling...
Which can either be a bad thing or a good thing.

Since we got it into TWD for "Public Testing" I've been busy with TWL and we've had most of our bot coders inundated with work,
so i need to find someone willing to change the bot again before bot changes can be made.

The 2 "closed corners" were like mini-bases with the idea
that you'd use basing tactics to defend and attack these areas with tools and skills on hand...

Im open to map changes and ideas, so download DCME and mod the map and
send it to maps@twdev.org for me to look at, or mock it up in paint.
Im fresh out of ideas and changes currently.

As i get more time and juggle RL work we'll take this feedback
and add some changes to SD. Have a little paitence and faith.

:fear:

[DankNuggets]

The way to fix it is obviously a points race. I've thought this from day one and wondered why this was not the first option. It just seems so obvious that people can exploit the speccing to win thing.

The map needs to be changed slightly to promote fighting. The 2 corners that are closed off need to be opened up. Why promote camping? It makes no sense to me. See who can team and plan out their kills better instead of hiding from the other team. This stuff seems way too trivial to me and I really don't understand why TWSD is like it is at the moment. Such easy and simple changes to make it a really great league.

I haven't played it in months but wasn't it supposed to be like a duel/basing hybrid? I mean that's why there's flag points and bricks i thought. Maybe that wasn't the best idea afterall? I think camping isn't nearly a big a problem as just running away from what I've read.

Maybe do something where if more than one member of the team is in spec/lags out for say 30 sec, then they forfeit the game? The other solutions seem pretty doable too.

[Kawrae]

I gotta agree with Paulo on this one, one thing I've noticed from playing other zones is that they have many many more loopholes but they don't fix them, because they don't have to.

Yeh we could just ban ignite! :fear:

[Lock]

The way to fix it is obviously a points race. I've thought this from day one and wondered why this was not the first option. It just seems so obvious that people can exploit the speccing to win thing.

The map needs to be changed slightly to promote fighting. The 2 corners that are closed off need to be opened up. Why promote camping? It makes no sense to me. See who can team and plan out their kills better instead of hiding from the other team. This stuff seems way too trivial to me and I really don't understand why TWSD is like it is at the moment. Such easy and simple changes to make it a really great league.