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  • #61
    Originally posted by Pio
    Sounds like a good idea. 100 MS or less you can play terr/jav/shark
    Well im not saying make all lag limits so strict not eveyrone can play. What im saying is make the limits in Shark/jav/terr lower then in spider/others. Dont make them rediculously low, but keep them so that u can keep them real lagjavs outa the ship.
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    • #62
      Yeah, 100ms is silly. No one outside of N. America would be able to play, regardless of what connection they have. Even some broadband users in the US could have problems. 200 - 300ms would suffice.I don't know that sharks should be included in stricter lag limits, either. It's really not a great advantage.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Adeon
        Yeah, 100ms is silly. No one outside of N. America would be able to play, regardless of what connection they have. Even some broadband users in the US could have problems. 200 - 300ms would suffice.I don't know that sharks should be included in stricter lag limits, either. It's really not a great advantage.
        It is when there lag lets them eat enuff bullets to make it like they have 4 repels instead of 3. That kind of stuff gives the squad jsut an extra secound for that other shark to respawn in the cram. Im not saying make them real strict, or even for shark. but i do think that atleast jav/wb should have stricter limits bc they are game breaking ships, especialy a rocketing jav. I also think Terr should hyave a little more strict so u dont have ppl like 2d spiking all over and nnot dying.
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        • #64
          Just a reminder that you can just increase the sitout time for lagouts to 40 sec or something.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Cig Smoke
            It is when there lag lets them eat enuff bullets to make it like they have 4 repels instead of 3. That kind of stuff gives the squad jsut an extra secound for that other shark to respawn in the cram. Im not saying make them real strict, or even for shark. but i do think that atleast jav/wb should have stricter limits bc they are game breaking ships, especialy a rocketing jav. I also think Terr should hyave a little more strict so u dont have ppl like 2d spiking all over and nnot dying.
            I should rephrase...

            It is an advantage, but there are also significant, and arguably greater disadvantages to a laggy shark, and that's already been discussed earlier in this thread.

            Rocketing javs are by far the worst and most annoying laggots in any basing match. If anything should be limited to 100ms, it's them. :P
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Adeon
              I should rephrase...

              It is an advantage, but there are also significant, and arguably greater disadvantages to a laggy shark, and that's already been discussed earlier in this thread.

              Rocketing javs are by far the worst and most annoying laggots in any basing match. If anything should be limited to 100ms, it's them. :P
              Hey i agree with u on that one Also ur rite, it is a disadvantage on somethings with laggy sharks, but if they are use to there lag they sometimes can overcome it and be jsut as affective. The overall disadvantages probably arent as high as the advantages.
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              • #67
                I would agree on both lowering the lag limits in twd and twl, and boosting the waiting time for lagouts of at least twice the actual one.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Don't try to resist
                  I would agree on both lowering the lag limits in twd and twl, and boosting the waiting time for lagouts of at least twice the actual one.
                  I dont think the actualy limits need lowering in both for all ships. i think the jav and maybe shark need lowering so they dont be spiking the place up the whole game. I think the lag limits are fine in TWD for TWL for spiders/terr and all, those dont cuase mucha problem, its the javs that do.'

                  I also agree make thel agout time higher. It will make temas think twice.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Cig Smoke
                    I dont think the actualy limits need lowering in both for all ships. i think the jav and maybe shark need lowering so they dont be spiking the place up the whole game. I think the lag limits are fine in TWD for TWL for spiders/terr and all, those dont cuase mucha problem, its the javs that do.'

                    I also agree make thel agout time higher. It will make temas think twice.
                    Bots can make it so that they set specific lag limits for certain ships? Sounds too complicated to be practical though.
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                    • #70
                      I havent read anything except Kim's post, but its all just very simple isnt it ? If you play matches or elim/baseelim a lot of people are lagging like shit, take hits etc or do other funny stuff. As long as thats already the case as it is now, we should they make the lag limit less strict ? That means more lagging! No thanks.
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                      • #71
                        Just make a 'visual lag' rule, similar to what other zones use. There are a handful of people that have incredible lag that everyone can see, and maybe we could trust the refs to make the call on whether or not they should be specced. I know a few people that definately shouldn't be allowed to play in TWL, unless they fix or change their connections.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Stabwound
                          Just make a 'visual lag' rule, similar to what other zones use. There are a handful of people that have incredible lag that everyone can see, and maybe we could trust the refs to make the call on whether or not they should be specced. I know a few people that definately shouldn't be allowed to play in TWL, unless they fix or change their connections.
                          Like the pt race, PL is trying to make basing more objective so there is less controversy and arguement over TWL games.

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                          • #73
                            That is definately true, though. People who you can actually see jumping everywhere several times simply shouldn't be allowed to play at all.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Adman
                              I have no sympathy for laggers. Fuck them all.
                              Move the server back to finland and I'd totally agree with you. It's all about what side of the lag limit you are at the moment.
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Jeansi
                                Move the server back to finland and I'd totally agree with you. It's all about what side of the lag limit you are at the moment.
                                U have to remember back when the server was in finland. ALl u finland ppl and euro's called us americans/canadians lagass's and wouldnt give us a break about it. it was "laggy american laggy this" Now the tides have turned, why should we give u a break and understand what ur saying? u forget, we've been there.

                                Stab, i think there use to be a rule like that i imagine someone spec'd someone who wasnt laggin that bad but caused there squad the match or something. In TWD prolly. As for TWL, can u really trust the ref? We got lag limits for a reason, if they arent OVER the limit where they lagout, then they should be able to play.

                                I jsut think IF possible in the bots, having a base jav's lag limits more strict would be helpful. Thats the kind of ship that needs it, its annoying to get them guys who already jump rocketing then get reped. its almost impossable. Same for wb. Make squads play there laggy ppl in Spider if they want, and increase the sitout time so it hurts the team by risking to play them.
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