TWL! Important Poll #2

[Cig Smoke]

I am seriously surprised that so many people are voting against the point race format. I'm sure that with a few tweaks or ideas, a lot more people would like it.

With tweaks or ideas will come more testing. We want TWL now, not another 2 months for testing then have to program that into a bot.

[Randedl]

Firstly, people wont lose interest if they are constantly losing in 15 rather than 30min. Actually, its quite the opposite when being 80k down and not having a chance to come back but still having to play the game to finish it loses interest.

Secondly, Practise time? Its supposed to be TWL, if they want to practise do it in TWD instead. And if TWD are changed to point race play more games so they dont lose in 30 mins.

That argument isnt really strong at all.

people play this game to play this game. nobody will benefit if games end in 15 minutes rather than 30.

[wadi]

U cant really argue that TWLB is anywhere near the same as TWLJ or TWLD. Its totaly 100% different. U arent defending a base in a "cram" where u can score 10k very rapidly. IN those other 2 leagues u take ur time and kill acordingly. U cant even compare those types of things.

In TWLD/J the games end when one team scores 50 kills (10000 points if you will). Point race in TWLB offers the exact same scoring system as is used in TWLJ and TWLB, though you might not think of it as such at first. Since all we are looking at IS the scoring system, YES the two are VERY comparable. How those points are scored is not important here, as my previous post was simply to point out that no one has of yet "lost interest" in TWLJ or TWLD simply because of the 10 deaths and you're out rule, or if you'd prefer a team view, the 50 deaths and you're out rule.

[Cig Smoke]

In TWLD/J the games end when one team scores 50 kills (10000 points if you will). Point race in TWLB offers the exact same scoring system as is used in TWLJ and TWLB, though you might not think of it as such at first. Since all we are looking at IS the scoring system, YES the two are VERY comparable. How those points are scored is not important here, as my previous post was simply to point out that no one has of yet "lost interest" in TWLJ or TWLD simply because of the 10 deaths and you're out rule, or if you'd prefer a team view, the 50 deaths and you're out rule.

Those games also have time limits on them u dont always needs 50 kills to win. u are allowed to run when ur ahead whether its running for 2 minutes or the team runs for 10 minutes. It isnt always a "point race/kill race" to 50. It is get a lead and hold it, just like basing is now.

[wadi]

Those games also have time limits on them u dont always needs 50 kills to win. u are allowed to run when ur ahead whether its running for 2 minutes or the team runs for 10 minutes. It isnt always a "point race/kill race" to 50. It is get a lead and hold it, just like basing is now.

Except that running is already explicitly and implicitly illegal in both leagues, and that the original point was that new squads would lose interest if they didn't get to play the entire 30 minutes.

[Emaho]

wow it's almost even.. i voted for point race..

[Force of Nature]

people play this game to play this game. nobody will benefit if games end in 15 minutes rather than 30.

Firstly you are assuming that point race will end in 15 mins which is not the case. Sure the race you might have played with 70k ended in 15 mins but that doesn't hold true to most of the games if the points are increased which seems like the case. So you are basically arguing something which isn't really the issue.

Secondly, people play this game to play this game. That means that they don't need to waste time when they can't come back. Let them play some other part of this game.

What do you mean nobody will benifit? I would think everyone would benifit. They wouldn't have to sit through waste of people playing and not really trying because they can't get back in. We are talking about TWL here but it applies to most of the other things as well.

[Hannes]

After playing alot of games with point race and regular(30 min timer). Which is better?

i vote for 30min timer

[JeBu]

i hope its point race. because there opponent team wont give up so early and its fun till end. in time game squads give up if its 15min played and game is like 30k-70k

[Sumpson]

Keep it the way it is, many people like to watch scores after a game and compair them with other games they have played, so do i. :eek:

[Cig Smoke]

Ur allowed to run the time out in TWLJ and TWLD if ur winning. Or atlest half ass it till time runs out. I believe Melee vs elusive 1 of the rounds last finals ended w/o all 50 kills.

I also like comparing scores, and i also like having the point differencial (+/-) as a deciding factor, it makes every squad bring ther A game even vs squads which dont require it.

[Mayo Inc.]

vote for race

[Randedl]

Firstly you are assuming that point race will end in 15 mins which is not the case. Sure the race you might have played with 70k ended in 15 mins but that doesn't hold true to most of the games if the points are increased which seems like the case. So you are basically arguing something which isn't really the issue.

Secondly, people play this game to play this game. That means that they don't need to waste time when they can't come back. Let them play some other part of this game.

What do you mean nobody will benifit? I would think everyone would benifit. They wouldn't have to sit through waste of people playing and not really trying because they can't get back in. We are talking about TWL here but it applies to most of the other things as well.

maybe it would be a good idea for pure_luck to give us a stat on what the point race would be too. there is a huge difference ina race to 70k and a race to 300k. somebody told me that a cramming team gets about 8k points per minute. i would be opposed to anything lower than a race to 150k

[bloodzombie]

I am seriously surprised that so many people are voting against the point race format. I'm sure that with a few tweaks or ideas, a lot more people would like it.

it's unbelieveable that this is even close. point race is the better system by far.

[Burnt]

I definatly think point race is better, when you've already basically won after the first 15 minutes, the next 15 are just boring.

However what would be better than both of these systems is a flag race..that is whoever has the flag for say 15 minutes first wins the game. I don't know how this would or if it could be implemented but it would be better since a game based on a base and a flag should really be decided by who owns the flag the most.