First squad to get kicked or dissolve?

[kthx]

Does anyone else find this entire situation completely ridiculous. By taking a soft line against cheaters your just opening the floodgates, stop being liberalist douchebags and fucking do something that MIGHT SOLVE SOME PROBLEMS. If you think nobody else on the squad knew that Mythril was cheating than you obviously shouldn't be solving mysteries for staff. The thing that makes this even worse than normal is the fact that it basically proves the old argument that older players/squads are free from getting in trouble because of their experience on the zone. If this had been say... Speed, or Quicksand I honestly doubt that we would be continued to keep playing in the TWL season. The offense for a CAPTAIN of a squad getting BANNED FOR CHEATING is the squad gets DISSOLVED, Period. Now then, if the squad is Dissolved in TWD, then they are unable to compete in TWL, so which backass way did you not follow the rules to allow this? Zerzera the cheater is the right, why do you think so many people allow squads with cheaters, because you only lesson we learn is we can get away with it when you don't do jack shit about anything. Oh, and im fairly certain Mythril will be back in the zone in a few days after he explains to you that he wasn't hacking at all, what really happened was (insane bullshit excuse here). So, way to fuck up, once again.

- Wark

PS: I don't have anything against Grapevine, atleast you deserve to be in TWL, but honestly if your captain fucked up, he did, and you should be dissolved.

[Dant-Zu]

I'm shocked about the fact Nethila changed his avatar more than the fact Mythril cheated.

[Chuck Norris]

grapevine is still in twl. twl hasnt started yet. and he cheated in a twd game. so we go by the twd rules. his squad wont get punished for this.

Does that mean all the league squads still have time to cheat because league hasnt started yet? hrmmm

[Stabwound]

Bohemians got disqualified from TWLB a few years ago when Bosshawk cheated in TWBD, and TWL wasn't started yet.

How is this any different?

[Displaced]

for once i agree with Wark.

take a hard line with cheater's.. the CAPTAIN cheated, ban the squad, as simple as that.

Its tough for the squad sure, but they can just reform and maybe still get on twl sans mythril at the helm..

being this tolerant, just sends the message that cheating is fine.

[Purple Heart]

I agree

I have nothing against GV, they are a nice bunch. It's like cheating on a test to pass a class, but it's fine because it wasn't the "SAT" test. Thats basically what this is telling me. If Mythril cheated, there is a certain possibility that (without the squad knowing) Mythril could have easily made an impact in all the games he played, where they may have been victorious (to gain points and make the lock) instead of losing, because of those cheats, whatever they may have been.

Just some extra points in GV's pocket from a certain player, maybe a number of points that somehow could have kept them out of TWL if they had not gained them through Mythril. I'm sure Mythril didn't cause so many points to be gained, for he didn't play too many games (while I was on GV).

I guess my post sides with GV, and doesn't at the same time.

1) Don't ban GV from TWL because the cheater didn't play many games in the first place

2) Ban them, because they had a cheater to gain a number of points, and the cheater was a squad captain, period.


Not that it matters now, because the decision has already been made as Nethila stated up above, I just wanted to type, so I thought I would just give my opinion on it.

Bottom line is that they are in, sorry to break certain squads hearts that they will be there to own them (Including us :P), and not get away from dding a good squad.

Edit:
And now that I think about it a little bit more (warks post), I have to strongly agree with him. (he's right) (Afk getting cheats for shinobi real quick)

[returnoftheapt]

juice

-nt-

[Kid Kaos]

Nethila is doing the right thing guys, GV should not be punished for the actions of one man. WHy are you guys being such sticlers over rules now? Because you want gv out? Only nerds whine about rules not being followed.

[Purple Heart]

Nethila:
...HOWEVER, let this be a lesson to all of you...

What? That I can cheat as a player at this very moment right before TWL begins? And then stop cheating and get banned but let my whole squad enter in a false manner? (Not pointing at GV, pointing at all squads in TW in general)

Edit: Stupid quote thing.

[PaulOakenfold]

Wow Kid Kaos that was the most ignorant thing I've heard all day. Why are people sticklers over rules? Because that's what makes these sort of events the way they are. If we don't follow the rules one time, why should we follow them the next? It's no good to have double standards. Don't go with the nerd argument either, that's totally weak, there are much better ones, although you might have to use your imagination this time.

I honestly don't care how this goes either way, because I really don't know the rules too well regarding this, as long as the rules are being followed.

[Zerzera]

THIS IS TW, CHEATERS ARE HEAVILY FROWNED UPON1!

[Purple Heart]

Why would that be the last person u suspect of that? The guy had huge lagspikes over and over again, i dont know if that was just his lag or if that was him cheating, nor do i care but seeing how he spiked its not really a suprise at all.

Sorry but when I was on GV, I never saw Mythril spike, or look suspicious one bit.

It always seemed as though he was flying just like the other warbirs, and playing well.

[Mythril]

At least I made another interesting thread eh? Good job keeping GV in TWL. I never cheated in a twdd or twjd.. or 90% of twbd games for that matter. Let's get real, I could have sat every round we ever played and we would have made twl easily in all leagues. I guarantee that my squadmates had no clue of me cheating, so don't even try to accuse them of that.

Just wanna say sorry to the dudes of grapevine... I'm pretty ashamed that I put you all at risk. It was a pleasure leading you guys and I know you'll be fine without me. If my math is right (and if they decide not to ban me forever) I'll be back in time to watch Grapevine win it all.

[RoDNeY]

what u saw was cape dissolve dice

why is ur sig all about ashlee, a bit obsessive...

[tahkis]

grapevine is still in twl. twl hasnt started yet. and he cheated in a twd game. so we go by the twd rules. his squad wont get punished for this.

Are you saying that if TWL is running and captain cheats in TWD match, you will still follow TWD rules?

Also if I remember correct, PL was threatening to dissolve QS when he found out that Deluge (who was evading ban) was using nick "Fault" and was in QS roster. All because our caps knew who he was - and I think he wasn't even in assistant position.