TWL Rules Modified

[Jones]

why this fancy stuff when im away

[megaman89]

why the fuck isnt it 1vs8 2vs7 so on.... stupid

[Hero*]

omg hi mega say hi to larry for me and to cig??? ill try to get on in a few days

[Izor]

if you do 1v8 2v7 you might as well have one conference to eliminate having to combine the 2 for playoffs. Also since I'm assuming there are still conferences just dont do cross conference playoffs. I have no idea why it wasnt always like this

If your answer is 'what if the conferences are unbalanced?' then ill remind you that captains vote on who they think the best squads are going into the season and that is used to determine conferences, or at least was this season. It's hard to get unbalanced conferences (with having the top 2 squads both in the same one) although some of the lower playoff teams were all in the same conference this way

[kthx]

I think my idea was better Kim, the World Cup style brackets.

Bracket A - #1,2,15,16.
Bracket B - #3,4,13,14.
Bracket C - #5,6,11,12.
Bracket D - #7,8,9,10.

6 weeks of games in this bracket style then the top two teams from each bracket move on. So.. lets just say ---

Bracket A - #1,2,3,4.
Bracket B - #5,6,7,8.

4 games in this bracket that way squads that are useless will get kicked out and we can have four weeks of actually good games, then we skip quarter finals, and go straight to semi-finals.

Bracket A - #1,2,3,4.

and finally...

Finals - #1,2.

Same amount of weeks, more good games, and a better grouping system.

2:Izor> but you'd combine A and D, so that teams 1,2,7 and 8 play each other
2:Izor> and B and C so that 3,4,5, and 6 play each other

^^^^^ is the correct second bracket. sorry.

[Jeenyuss]

I am very happy someone has given an overhaul to the rules for next season. Like others I find the Swiss Bracket a bit confusing. However, the idea of making the playoffs last longer is great! Is there still going to be the same loophole of "if you leave your squad but within 24 hours return to it" it's okay? I hope not. Thanks though Kim

ps i like your avatar

[Izor]

If you are restructuring the league somewhat I would hope you at least look at warks thread about the TWD/TWL idea. A seeded World Cup format that gives a benefit to squads actually trying in TWD and makes every week important in the season. I'm sure the idea needs a little work but..its good and easy.

[kthx]

http://www.trenchwars.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26215

thats my old thread (bumped!)

[Revolve]

loooks good .. thanks kim !

[Kim]

Okay here's Wark's idea tuned to what I like

Four bracket system would be nice, but the rankings should go a little bit more like this to separate to power-houses.

Bracket A - #1,8,9,16.
Bracket B - #2,7,10,15.
Bracket C - #3,6,11,14.
Bracket D - #4,5,12,13.

Week 1
1v8 2v7 3v6 4v5 9v16 10v15 11v14 12v13

Week 2
1v9 2v10 3v11 4v12 8v16 7v15 6v14 5v13

Week 3
1v16 2v15 3v14 4v13 8v9 2v15 3v14 4v13

Week 4-6 will be repeat of Week 1-3.


From here we'll take the top 2 from each bracket just like in World Cup style.
Pretend that first two from each group do actually advance.

Combine A and D, B and C -> also re-arrange the teams according to ranking from 1 to 8

Upper Bracket - #1,4,5,8
Lower Bracket - #2,3,6,7

3 weeks of games where you play every other squad in your bracket, top 2 from each bracket advance to the semifinals. Re-arrange the teams again from ranks 1 to 4.

Semifinals (3 rounds)
1 plays 4
2 plays 3

Winners in the finals (3 rounds)

[Jeenyuss]

does that not equal out to the playoffs being longer than the regular season?

[Kim]

Yes, what do you guys think about shortening our regular season to only 6 weeks? I'm sure there's going to be a replay week so thats 7. Squads usually tend to lose focus at around that time so I wanted to cut it off before that happens. Teams usually get more serious during playoffs, even though it isn't 1 round elimination.

[Izor]

Well, the format in that world cup style thing makes the TWD season the 'TWL Qualifying', just like the world cup qualifiers seed the groups, and then the whole TWL season is playoff almost, making every game more worthwhile. Also it eliminates the problem of squads who are going to get raped every week just dissolving, because they'll be out in a week or 2 anyway (you dont need to replace them; you can just use forfeits). You could also continue to run all 3 leagues at the same time, because the scheduling will not be a problem after week 6, and the better squads really should be able to win those games earlier on even with unfavorable times. Whether or not you want to separate them for other reasons (to keep tw more popular year round) is another story.

A problem that I see other than the added week or 2 is the replays. From what Kim has said staff is going to try more to make the replays done on the spot using TWBots if TWLBots fail or if the game is replayed for other reasons hopefully it can be done on the spot. That has to be worked with though.

And yes that seeding does make more sense. It adds some competitiveness to all brackets in the first round.

[Aquatiq]

why the fuck isnt it 1vs8 2vs7 so on.... stupid

lol, agreed. I don't understand what's wrong with it... the NCAA tourny (men's) is broadcasted to millions, they don't "care" about babying the lower ranked teams for "good ratings" or "interesting games" - the possibility of an upset is exciting, and the bigger the upset possible, the bigger the excitement. Besides, if you've got the 1st seed squad having a 10-0 record and the 8th seed squad having a 7-3 record... that really isn't enough to say that if they play, it'll be a massacre. If it was 100-0 vs. 70-30... that'd be a different story.

[Facetious]

that playoff system makes no sense whatsoever.