TWL Week 1 : Hot or Not

[Noah]

If lag limits are just fine then I shouldn't have been specced in the TWL game. Being a lagger is one thing that has never been said about me, because I always make sure I get the best connection possible. I do understand that 90% of the community lacks the insight to do anything just because they have no problems themselves. Both me and Venomarse was completely caught offguard by the lagouts, and that played a big part in the final score in our LD (Sake played well, it would be very hard to win anyway, but we'd do much better if it wasn't for those lagouts). Like paska pointed out, the difference in the spike limit between TWD and TWL should not have such a huge impact on TWL games as it currently has. If you're not going to change the limit, then reduce it on TWD as well. Atleast then we can see who can play TWL or not. Right now it doesn't matter to me if you remove my possibility of playing TWD either.

I challenge anyone who supports this 15ms average lag spike limit to explain what this exactly means, and why 15 is the ideal limit. If you have some technical insight on how this is ideal, then please share that with us so we can end this discussion.

[eelam <tw>]

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because people who have more than a 15ms spike are those who play with a lot of programs on and have alot of things running which makes them spike alot, especially when they are thrusting and shooting ( in javs and wbs) which makes it unfair to those who dont lag. By implementing such a lag limit on spikes it forces people to refresh SS before TWL matches and creates for a more and fair playing field for everyone, because spike median for the most part ( 98% of pop) can be controlled by the individual who is playing. Now stfu with ur whine AND GET GOOD rather than GET LAGGY.

[Capital Knockers]

If lag limits are just fine then I shouldn't have been specced in the TWL game. Being a lagger is one thing that has never been said about me, because I always make sure I get the best connection possible. I do understand that 90% of the community lacks the insight to do anything just because they have no problems themselves. Both me and Venomarse was completely caught offguard by the lagouts, and that played a big part in the final score in our LD (Sake played well, it would be very hard to win anyway, but we'd do much better if it wasn't for those lagouts). Like paska pointed out, the difference in the spike limit between TWD and TWL should not have such a huge impact on TWL games as it currently has. If you're not going to change the limit, then reduce it on TWD as well. Atleast then we can see who can play TWL or not. Right now it doesn't matter to me if you remove my possibility of playing TWD either.

I challenge anyone who supports this 15ms average lag spike limit to explain what this exactly means, and why 15 is the ideal limit. If you have some technical insight on how this is ideal, then please share that with us so we can end this discussion.

I agree, I've always been one thats voted for higher lag limits, but this is just ridiculas. People that I don't even see as laggers in the least are being specced.

Eelam, you're an idiot man. I can say for Pirate's at least that EVERYONE makes damn sure they have no d/ls going, restarts SS, close programs. That isn't what's causing this. The lagouts have been almost completely random, and Noah is right. Lower them in TWD too if they are this unpredictible in TWL. We need to be able to see who can play stable and who can't. How is increasing subs a solution? Captains get 1 chance a week to put their guys in for TWL - are you telling me we're just going to let this TWL be run by hit or miss lagouts? Because captains/players have no way of telling how long their connection will be fine (as it has been for years) until they're specced.

Only good thing about the whole ordeal, is I might get more playtime in shark. Yet, can someone please explain to me why Dwopple is lagging out? I've never seen someone complain he lags.

[KiAN]

How about I just tell you I can barely make out what the fuck you are talking about and making this weeks Not section your terrible English?

omg i almost peed myself laughing

[Scoop]

What do you mean you hope all the hype will stop about you? You visibly stirred it all up on your own, don't complain about the shit you chose to eat.










HONESTLY, wtf are you talking about. Good writeup, voth.

Why would you of all people call someone out? I mean, after all you did, people are only now finally not making fun of you.

[PaulOakenfold]

you don't have to be good to verbally own a scrublord
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[Exalt]

we had 4 lagouts (not including weaver's MIA, and for some reason it showed i only had 1 lagout when i really had 2.)

so if you really wanna get technical, even if it was 2 min MIA (which it was longer) tack on another minute for our lagouts, one which included our terr while we were in FR, causing more seconds for him to get back in, fly his lil red booty up, and get us in FR.

im sorry but thats rediculous.... basers are laggy pieces of shit

there should be a lagout limit like in every other arena.... you lagout 3 times your out for good

base is ruined by players lag cheating their way to wins, which is retarded, these players need to get better connections to be able to play a stupid ass 2d spaceship game, otherwise they should stick to playing microsoft hearts and stfu

seriously, there is no excuse for people to lag out more than twice in a match at all, either stop downloading porn or buy a new connection

[KiAN]

lmao paulo

ps exalt ur an idiot..

[Exalt]

lmao paulo

ps exalt ur an idiot..

why? because i tell the truth? so you don't get mad when some laggy ass like dald is only good because he can lag through everything and screw up your cram?

i fail to see how lag should be rewarded in base unlike the other two dueling leagues.... at least in jav and wb if u lag too much and lagout 3 times you get +1 each time and finally cannot !lagout anymore, in base its like a laggots paradise, lag through everything and kill a cram either be it a jav bomb or a shark not dying or a spider going balistic... either way lag is rewarded and good in base which is stupid...

there should be an actual punishment... and if you dont agree then you are obviously one of the laggy ones then cuz no one likes laggots

[Salubrious]

I agree. During a LB match, when a ship lags out, they should also get +1 death. It will solve everything.

[Stabwound]

So, dald couldn't stay in and was subbed?

Glad to see that part of the bots is working right. :fear:

[Capital Knockers]

why? because i tell the truth? so you don't get mad when some laggy ass like dald is only good because he can lag through everything and screw up your cram?

i fail to see how lag should be rewarded in base unlike the other two dueling leagues.... at least in jav and wb if u lag too much and lagout 3 times you get +1 each time and finally cannot !lagout anymore, in base its like a laggots paradise, lag through everything and kill a cram either be it a jav bomb or a shark not dying or a spider going balistic... either way lag is rewarded and good in base which is stupid...

there should be an actual punishment... and if you dont agree then you are obviously one of the laggy ones then cuz no one likes laggots

Exalt, you're really off here man so lemme break it down for you. Basing is alot different than dueling. It's a clusterfuck first of all, alot of ships constantly in close quarters. You've got reps, bursts, mines, javbombs, fucking lancs or birds, portals. There are alot more things that lag can affect, and ALOT more things that can cause lag. Duelings is 5v5, less people, less shots fired, 1 type of ship. It's alot easier to say +1 death if they lagout too - and if you knew much about basing, you'd know that when you lagout, you have to wait 15 seconds to get back in. Which may seem silly to you, but if you're holding a cram, and your shark lags out, well there goes the cram and maybe the terr.

There needs to be higher lag limits in base in comparison to dueling. It's simple math, more people are playing, closer, and with more variables. So people that keep going "fu laggy euros eat shit" obviously don't remember what it was like when the server was in Finland, and alot of people who have fine lag atm due to living in this part of the world, were arguing the same way the euros are now. So, I'm sorry to say, alot of North Americans don't know what the fuck they are talking about here, and should bow their heads and queitly walk away. The lag limits, spike limit, i dont know what - but something needs to be adjusted a bit for TWL lag limits. Basers (just like good wbs and javs) know how to play with/against some lag. I think we should be listing the people that are lagging out that weren't previously considered laggy - and then have the community take a look and decide whether or not things are too harsh. I'd rather play against some lag, rather than never know who's getting specced, on my team or the other.

When almost every single game in twl is suffering lagouts, isn't that a sign that maybe we need to tinker around with the limits a little more? Not just some lagouts either, alot, way more than anyone wants.

[Cig Smoke]

Dice will be bak this weekend when i return to the pitch

[Jeenyuss]

i am quite sad/

[Deverse]

Cig, throw us the match. Gotta get us off that Not section omgomgomgomgmg

P.S. JEENYUSS I SEE YOU ON FORUMS. Nowhere to be found in game. Thanks.