TWLB Qualifications Appeal - Sweet

[Zeebu]

hey guys i just wanted to let you know that this was the first time i clicked 'new posts' and this didnt have a new post in it.

keep up the good work

[Vatican Assassin]

there were originally going to be 8 teams in twlb, but we looked at ladder and saw hit and sweet were both decent teams, so they were asked if they wanted to enter twlb and they accepted. no one ever thought to ask paladen if they wanted to join twlb because they sucked. sorry you guys thought the cut off date for twl meant anything for twlb. seriously you guys suck so much, think about how you would feel if they decided to let 12 teams play in twld and Pandora was one of them, that's how bad you suck at basing.

[Riverside]

is paladen serious right now? loooooooooool

do the mini tourny, i'll gladly take a day off work and wipe the floor with these scrubs.

[Rasaq]

jebass for twlb hon writer

rofl +1

[With Ease]

Admittedly, I thought qualification ended 12 AM May 1st as it said on the website, and told my squad the same. That said, it's fairly obvious this appeal has to be granted, but I think you're all going about it the wrong way. Paladen was qualified Saturday night AND Sunday night. Terrible or not, their position in LB can't be questioned. The issue here is that Sweet was qualified as of Saturday night at 11:59 PM, and Hit wasn't. But Sunday night at 11:59 their positions reversed. The website said one thing while the TWL Ops implied another, which makes each outcome somewhat legitimate. It isn't fair to Paladen to force them to play in a qualification tournament when they were qualified both nights. The best scenario is to simply have a head-to-head match between Sweet and Hit for the final spot. There are rules for a reason. You can't throw Paladen into the mini-tournament just because you think they don't have a chance. If you wanted to keep them out so badly you should have said something several weeks ago or changed the rules for qualification. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Paladen being in TWLB but there's nothing you can do about it. Citing one forfeit is meaningless, as I'm sure the majority of LB squads experienced a forfeit in some form.

TLDR format: Should be head-to-head between Sweet and Hit. Paladen was qualified under both circumstances.

[Ganon-Knight]

TLDR format: Should be head-to-head between Sweet and Hit. Paladen was qualified under both circumstances.

+1

[Dethdefire]

Admittedly, I thought qualification ended 12 AM May 1st as it said on the website, and told my squad the same. That said, it's fairly obvious this appeal has to be granted, but I think you're all going about it the wrong way. Paladen was qualified Saturday night AND Sunday night. Terrible or not, their position in LB can't be questioned. The issue here is that Sweet was qualified as of Saturday night at 11:59 PM, and Hit wasn't. But Sunday night at 11:59 their positions reversed. The website said one thing while the TWL Ops implied another, which makes each outcome somewhat legitimate. It isn't fair to Paladen to force them to play in a qualification tournament when they were qualified both nights. The best scenario is to simply have a head-to-head match between Sweet and Hit for the final spot. There are rules for a reason. You can't throw Paladen into the mini-tournament just because you think they don't have a chance. If you wanted to keep them out so badly you should have said something several weeks ago or changed the rules for qualification. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Paladen being in TWLB but there's nothing you can do about it. Citing one forfeit is meaningless, as I'm sure the majority of LB squads experienced a forfeit in some form.

TLDR format: Should be head-to-head between Sweet and Hit. Paladen was qualified under both circumstances.

None of the three squads in question, other than Paladen, have had a TWLB "forfeit" game during the qualifications.

[Marge]

I included Paladen not because I believed they weren't good enough for TWLB, but because Sweet was ranked higher than both Paladen and Hit at the time of the initial deadline. My appeal being from my own squad's perspective, we should have qualified ahead of both of these squads. That is my reason for including them in the proposed tournament.

[Rasaq]

you do realize that twlb is 8s, right? and you realize that paladen has 24 bd losses (mostly in 5s) against qualifying squads to go with those 4 "wins", meaning they're even shitty at 5s, which is pretty much all they played to get in? and you realize that rightfully striking their bullshit 43-point forfeit win from the records would eliminate them from twlb? and you realize that they don't belong in this league anyway?

I have the biggest fucking hard-on for you right now.

Been crying, nothing new, about that in pene's chat like every day how it's unfair that more than 60% of paladen's games, which all took place within a week, were 5v5 and how hit, sweet and diso managed to play games throughout the season that were 6v6 or more and somehow paladen would qualify over one of them. I honestly feel like paladen's only intention was to qualify for 3 leagues just so they can stock 35 wbs on their roster. Let's not also forget that paladen was fed points by dependency a squad who has only played 1 bd game all season. Also, yes I voted 10/10/10, but I'm pretty sure paladen's entire roster voted 10/10/10. My thoughts at the time was that hit, sweet and diso would be in LB with no other squads on ladder over 5 games. Paladen had 3 games played, I believe that was before the vote, and there was almost 2 weeks between games and another 2 days between the other. Then all of a sudden they're playing 1.5 billion 5v5 games after April 23rd.

Yes, it's nice for players like myself and paladen's roster to play in other leagues and make them active, but let's add the squads in LB who have capable players. They decided to play another league a week before deadline.

I guess it's fair to say that paladen did earn their spot. They did play games, not meaningful ones, but they knew they needed more than 30 games and to finish in the top 10. Granted a feed here or there, they played.

One more thing. Paladen played a lot of 5v5 games and they have 0 basers on their squad. The minute we play a 5v5 game with me in as terr or shark it's considered a feed? Our first game we played against hit I had Geio pming me a story about how the game wasn't going to count because they "see everything." I don't know if you're insulting me, which would be fair because I'm not a good baser, but we added a line that paladen had added all season. I still played hard in the bd, had 30+ kills, 2 tks, and 5 teks. It's a 5v5 match, it's not going to be pretty. The game I terr'd in was 5v5 also, I have one shark to rely on and rep for me. Once he died I have to wait 5 seconds while my team tries to fend off the attack. That wasn't easy...got a match now. Guess I'm done.

Edit: Not needed for the game.

Seeing how paladen has qualified, they can pick up some basers and get a decent line in for LB. Doubt players would join tho' or that they even care to recruit anyone. I think Sweet would have the better shot at recruiting much needed help from a squad that needs to rid a player or two to solidify their line of basers they already have.

[Minotar]

Hoping for a another classic brainwave tourny

[renzi]

Paladen isn't capable of anything, let alone TWLB. Lets remove the below feed you received from pandora and then talk about if you should really be qualified or not. You would be below both hit and sweet if not for this 15-0 game feed.

Apr 28 10pm win Pandora 15 - 0 43

that wasnt a feed. that was 1 guy went afk right before the game and paladen wouldnt !cancel...dont drag us into this feeding shit. you ignorant retarded fuck

[Veloce]

First off, it's pretty obvious here that sweet will field a better line than paladen or hit. I think the concern is one, the rules, and two, will hit/paladen make a good showing every week. Hit has been pretty inactive in twbd over the past 2-3 months, and it's doubtful they'll even show 8 every week if they keep it up....then we have paladen who started basing how long ago??

I vote a play-off to settle this because it is definitely suspect everything that happened last night before qualifications. We'd also like to see the best competition possible this season, as with every.

[the_paul]

This shit is fucking stupid. If you are going to try to remove the points from any team based on feeding last night from penetrate or whoever, then you are obligated go through every single one of each team's games, evaluate the lines the other team used, and if necessary remove those points as well, since they had just as big an impact on the final point total as those at the end of the season.

Basically, use the time/date mess up as an excuse to hold this tournament and get rid of the most retarded of 3 short bus squads with minimal fuss, as long as it doesn't delay TWL for everyone for another week. If paladen really earned their spot, they should have no qualms about their ability to prove it.

[Tanzu]

you obviously dont understand the capability of our roster veloce.

[Vatican Assassin]

they have depth like a tidal wave