Basing Training Proposal

[ogron]

This is a good idea, if I could add a suggestion, one that I would like for my own squad members:


A Basing Manual for each ship


Something that takes 10-20 minutes to read, showing spids to you know, shoot 2-3 bullets at a time, how to cover under, cram, line, not to shoot sharks in mid, when to push, a few useful shots, etc. then you can refer guys who want to base to this manual. At least the concepts with a manual are ingrained so they can see what is really going on while basing, what they should be trying to do, and why they are losing so badly.

We have guys that claim to have been "sharking for years" and yet don't alternate in cram or time anything and mine at the worst times.

There is a layer of complexity and symbiotic relationship between ship-types absent from playing TWDD that seems obvious to people who base, but isn't to the rest of TW.

[Jeenyuss]

jerome in principle your idea is good. it gets people introduced to basing. look at quirion, how many of us went through their system?

the problem with a system like that is that it offers no infrastructure/stability for real skill progression. they're not learning from anyone, they're sorting it out for themselves. which, in some respects, works for people who can do it on their own. however, for the rest of the population they need a bit more guidance.

it's key to offer players a place where they can feel comfortable in. comfortable with the people who are teaching them and in the reliability of the squad. where i learned most of my shit was through brookus on anti-scrub, not rejected basers or quirion or whichever other squad i hopped around on in the first few years. brookus knew his stuff and the squad was established enough that i felt a sense of pride being on the roster, meaning i stuck around long enough to actually learn something.

any project that royst's willing to commit some time to is going to succeed inevitably, but he's only one dude. what if it became mandatory for each squad to have a certain percentage of new players on their roster? maybe not new new, but how about players who have yet to have any twl experience? just a thought. i wrote half of this post yesterday and the other half tonight, so i kind of lost my train of thought.

[KiAN]

we dont take anyone with such low post count serious on our forums but ok keep talkin

Lol? He has 8 posts and you have 16...

I'd be willing to help also, I helped start penetrate back in the day and it's pretty impressive to see what they have become. Certainly wouldn't mind giving newbies some guidance in any way necessary again

[Cambia]

Hi, I'm someone that plays pub a lot and I have been wanting to get into serious basing for awhile now. I think I could make a good shark with some training. Glad to see this thread because I had no idea how to get started before.

If someone could message me in game or reply back here with what I should be doing first to get started that would be awesome. Thanks!

[menomena]

Lol? He has 8 posts and you have 16...

I'd be willing to help also, I helped start penetrate back in the day and it's pretty impressive to see what they have become. Certainly wouldn't mind giving newbies some guidance in any way necessary again

i was joking haha

[Veloce]

Lots of essays in this thread so forgive me if what I say has already been discussed but I don't really have the time to read this all right now...

Anyone who plays in twbd knows that it's generally very competitive due to the same 4 or 5 squads that play each other all the time. I don't think double-squadding is necessary...instead we should all look to create an environment where squads can mutually decide to throw in a new guy or two in even if the next game is more for the win.

[Royst]

I thank everyone for the feedback and really appreciate all the positive responses and ideas I have received. I have even gotten many newer players messaging me asking where they can go to find a training squad, and subsequently making me feel bad because with penetrate at 54 members there is really no room for them.

I have decided that with or without the double squad implementation I will attempt to create a squad like Daycare again. With the backing of most of you, even without you guys on roster I feel confident it will be easier and more efficient to do this. In the next two weeks I will attempt to recruit a roster of over 30 members (hopefully, lol) so if anyone knows anybody who wants to get into the basing scene tell them to send me a message (that includes you cambia!) and I will give them a chat and password.

I figure it is best to do this during TWL because it can only peak their interest in basing even more seeing the best players play on sundays. It would be a shame to not take advantage of what looks like a very competitive season that will most undoubtedly peak people's interests.

So, one thing I hope to implement for base squads to mention to their captains is perhaps to have a window every two weeks where one of the established squads can have an open dialogue with me to recruit one member who have been playing on the squad for a while. This way you can see how they play from bds we have played and not be skeptical about picking up a completely random person from nowhere, and this creates a system where training and getting better can be rewarded for people who just want to rise up the ranks. I encourage you guys to message me in game or in this thread if your squad is interested in being a part of this system.

Lastly, I would appreciate those of you who do want to help to message me in game or in this thread for a chat (if you have an open slot) for those who can just have open dialogue on what this squad and their new members can do to improve on how we operate and how they as individuals can get better at. Thank you everyone for your comments and help already, it has motivated me even more to do this.

P.S. What squad name should I use?!?!? :P

[Jerome Scuggs]

if i have to say "cramhammer" one more time im going to, well, probably just have to wind up saying it again

[Heisman]

"The Squad Killer and his newbs"

[menomena]

"the super friends

[Crescent Seal]

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[Jerome Scuggs]

"the super friends

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[Major Crisis]

I thank everyone for the feedback and really appreciate all the positive responses and ideas I have received. I have even gotten many newer players messaging me asking where they can go to find a training squad, and subsequently making me feel bad because with penetrate at 54 members there is really no room for them.

I have decided that with or without the double squad implementation I will attempt to create a squad like Daycare again. With the backing of most of you, even without you guys on roster I feel confident it will be easier and more efficient to do this. In the next two weeks I will attempt to recruit a roster of over 30 members (hopefully, lol) so if anyone knows anybody who wants to get into the basing scene tell them to send me a message (that includes you cambia!) and I will give them a chat and password.

I figure it is best to do this during TWL because it can only peak their interest in basing even more seeing the best players play on sundays. It would be a shame to not take advantage of what looks like a very competitive season that will most undoubtedly peak people's interests.

So, one thing I hope to implement for base squads to mention to their captains is perhaps to have a window every two weeks where one of the established squads can have an open dialogue with me to recruit one member who have been playing on the squad for a while. This way you can see how they play from bds we have played and not be skeptical about picking up a completely random person from nowhere, and this creates a system where training and getting better can be rewarded for people who just want to rise up the ranks. I encourage you guys to message me in game or in this thread if your squad is interested in being a part of this system.

Lastly, I would appreciate those of you who do want to help to message me in game or in this thread for a chat (if you have an open slot) for those who can just have open dialogue on what this squad and their new members can do to improve on how we operate and how they as individuals can get better at. Thank you everyone for your comments and help already, it has motivated me even more to do this.

P.S. What squad name should I use?!?!? :P

I think you could put some guys down in LTkings for now. I am there to train them already and the guys are really motivated to get better.

To be honest. I think the best is to have a squad with like 5 decent/good basers and the rest are kinda new to basing. Else the same thing as the squad Metal will happpen. 3 years ago Confluence wanted to start a training squad and many people joined and we ended up with only experienced twd players and were in top 5 of all divisions. And these 'newbs' learn the best by playing. So their teachers cant be afraid to sit games and watch how they play.

[Mantra-Slider]

looking at Disobliges rating in twbd I think its safe to assume that we are a basing training squad!!


.. and a poor one!

[Jerome Scuggs]

i think i get where royst is coming from about creating a new squad - in terms of relative stability, but I think ltkings and lamists are both picking up steam as homegrown pub squads, though its too early to tell what will happen with 'em. they might morph into dueling squads

royst: check yr in game ?messages