TWL Rule Changes

[Aura]

Here you go folks. TWL rule changes for TWL Season 17.

Roster
Single league roster cap:
-15 players for LD or LJ squads.
-20 players for LB squads.

Double league roster cap:
-15 players for LD and LJ squads.
-20 players for LB and LD or LJ squads.

Triple league roster cap:
-25 players for LD, LJ, and LB squads.

TWL Medals will only be awarded to players that meet these conditions
-4 games played throughout the season in LD or LJ
-The players must have 5 deaths, or played at least 10 minutes in each game.
-4 games played throughout the season in LB
-The players must play at least 8 minutes in each LB.

Season Games
-One regular season match may be postponed with 24 hours notice.
-The game must be played before the last regular season game ends.
-One playoff match may be postponed with 72 hours notice.
-The game must be played before the next round begins.
-If teams cannot agree on a time to replay, TWL staff will set a time to replay.
-This time will most likely be one hour before the next round starts.

-There will be no star restriction for any player to play TWL.

Trench Wars Amateur League
-Only players rated under 4 stars for TWDT will be eligible to play
-Two captains of a single squad may be over this star limit and are eligible to play.
-Players who did not play TWDT will be rated before the start of TWAL
-Players will be able to appeal for their entrance into TWAL
-A committee will decide if the player's skill level is appropriate for TWAL
-TWAL will start at hard lock of TWL.
-Players that were on a TWL squad after hard lock will not be eligible for TWAL.
-There is no roster cap for TWAL.
-There will be 4 TWAL squads that must all be 3 league squads.
-The top squad in each division will receive the last TWL playoff seed spot.
-All players who apply for TWAL will be alias checked to confirm identity.

These changes may be altered before TWL, and additional rules may be added to prevent abuse of these changes. Please feel free to comment and contribute. These are YOUR ideas that were presented to us, and we've had a lot of good(and bad) suggestions.

Thanks everyone! See you in the trenches!

TWL will begin on January 6, 2013.

TW League Staff
League Heads: Demonic & M_M God
TWL Assistant: Aura
TWD Assistant: Disown
TW League Operators: The_paul, A I, Best, Reckful, 24, Stark, Vaped

[Stayon]

" -The top squad in each division will receive the last TWL playoff seed spot. "

How many squads qualify for twl playoffs then?

[Aura]

It will most likely be 8/8/8 with 5 teams qualifying for playoffs. Then TWAL squad will be seed #6. The schedule works the best for that setup.

[kthx]

http://forums.trenchwars.net/showthr...17-coming-soon!

Yep.

[Pressure]

Hmm, only problem I see occurring with 8/8/8 is that it may conflict with your new roster cap.

Previously there was no roster cap, with a 10/10/8 format. A lot more people were on each squad for TWL, but there was less competition. This season, the roster cap may force more squads to form, but less players can be on each squad, thus less players will be allowed to play TWL. We're talking cutting around 100 people out of TWL. Couldn't this potentially ruin the game for those who don't make it to TWL, and perhaps be a damper on our population?

I'm all for a roster cap, seeing as it will increase activity and competition. However, I'm also curious to know if the 8/8/8 could be reconsidered if, say, we have 12 squads competing for each league.

For example... right now, in TWBD, there are 7 active squads:

Pandora (36), Gun (40), Revenge (33), Raid (26), Mellow (60), LEGO (28), Skille (35)

And this is leaving out Dudgeon, who does base as of late. Let's hypothetically cut 30 players off of Mellow since they probably have a bunch of inactive pubbers on there. That is 228 players. Say we dissolve all of these squads, and we're lucky enough to have enough pure basing squads form to fit all of these players...obviously, all hypothetical:

228 players, 20 players per squad, that's roughly 11 squads. I'll be generous and say that 10 squads form.

This is not including the 2/3-league squads that may have basers.

This is also not including the amount of people that take an extended break during off-season, but are sure to come back for TWL.



All I'm trying to say is, great job with the new rules, but anticipate more than 8 competitive squads for each league (especially LJ/LD; 8 may still be good enough for LB) since you're trimming every squad down from 35-40 to 15-25 players.

Also, when will it be determined whether a squad is 2-, or 3-league? If a squad has 35 players during the offseason, and makes it into 3 leagues, they'll have to cut 10 players and this may make them less competitive in the leagues they qualified for. Perhaps the roster cap should be implemented simultaneously with the final TWD reset prior to TWL?

[Aura]

Yes, we did anticipate having more than 8 squads for each league, but it is unclear as to how many squads will actually form at this time. Hopefully, I can gauge activity from TWDT. The implementation of a lower roster cap and the inclusion of removing afk medals will hopefully drive more activity, create more competition from the spreading of players, and make a better overall season. The point of these changes is to keep TWL competitive and exclusive while still accommodating to new talent that has had no chance to thrive in the last season or two due to the skill disparity and lack of TWD squads.

[Infrared]

twd is going to die during twl if the roster caps are that low

[Versa]

I'm all for roster caps but these seem slightly extreme.

[Vatican Assassin]

Infrared is correct.

No squad with 20 members has or will ever be able to survive in TWBD. Sumpson tried it with Basingcrew; they played 4 bds a year. It is simply impossible. Add to that the fact that, at least on Pandora, we need to keep at least 8 spots open for LJ players on our TWL roster, but we get no increase in roster size for playing 2 leagues? Only a few of our players are good enough to play in LB and LJ, but our javs can help fill a BD line when we don't have enough basers, and vice versa. Please increase the amount of players in a LB/LJ or LB/LD squad to 25. No bullshit or hyperbole, if you make Pandora's TWL roster go to 20 we will not be able to play 8v8 twbd games anymore.

[Zeebu]

twd is going to die during twl if the roster caps are that low

that usually happens anyways.

twd is super active the couple weeks leading up then it kinda drops off until sunday mornings.

[Rasaq]

Well said, Zeebu!

[Welfare]

This is the dumbest shit I ever heard, why are people that never won any medals or have any real TWL experience making changes?

[Ricko]

didn't really read this in depth but - A. it didn't make much sense, wtf is the amateur league if it requires people to have under 4 stars rating in twdt? why is twdt being connected to twl?
B. should stick to 10 squads if the roster cap is being dropped to 15 for single league squads as people should become more active nearer twl.
C. When you say 10 minutes per game do you mean at least 10 minutes in an entire season?
D. Why were star restrictions even mentioned in terms of twl? this isn't twdt.
E. I had a few more points but I'm whining a lot.

[Aura]

This is the dumbest shit I ever heard, why are people that never won any medals or have any real TWL experience making changes?

This list was compiled from changes that the community recommended. Then the changes were voted upon by upper staff/some twl captains to find the most suitable ones.

didn't really read this in depth but - A. it didn't make much sense, wtf is the amateur league if it requires people to have under 4 stars rating in twdt? why is twdt being connected to twl?
B. should stick to 10 squads if the roster cap is being dropped to 15 for single league squads as people should become more active nearer twl.
C. When you say 10 minutes per game do you mean at least 10 minutes in an entire season?
D. Why were star restrictions even mentioned in terms of twl? this isn't twdt.
E. I had a few more points but I'm whining a lot.

A.The amateur league is separate from TWL besides playoffs. There has to be an easy way to keep higher skilled players out of the amateur league so as to prevent abuse to get a guaranteed playoff spot. The most simple way is to use the TWDT rating system to decide who can/can't play in TWAL. The star system does not effect TWL at all. It is merely a guide line for TWAL, and every player will still be looked at on an individual basis regardless of star rating.

B.We are waiting to see how activity picks up or drops off when TWD resets. Then we can finally judge the appropriate amount of squads that we'll have for this season. The activity could possibly change roster cap too.

C.Sorry, I was having formatting problems with this list. Blame pinkstar for fixing it. You need to play at least 4 games in LD, LJ, or LB to qualify for medals that your team earned. LD/LJ = You must play 4 games, and in those games, you must have either died 5 times or played a total of 10 minutes in each game. If you qualified through LB games, you will need to play 4 games, and have played at least 8 minutes in each of those games. If your squad is in multiple leagues, you can qualify by playing 4 different league matches(with the same rules applying to each match).

D.Refer to A.

E. Stop whining.

[RednaZ]

What's max res again, couldn't find it in the rules thingy on twl site.