TW Mafia: Sweet Vengeance

[Downfall]

And also, since I haven't seen anyone else mention this, I received 2 PMs about my role, the second one was a clarification of the first. I don't imagine I was the only one to get this.

Not that it says much but
I received 1 chat box notification from the mod which contained 2 separate messages, the second being a clarification aswell. Im not sure if that is what you meant, but I did not receive 2 separate pms/ chat boxes from Rodney

[ixt]

if the discussion has traveled in this direction, i have only received one chat notification about my role pm.

[Exalt]

Not that it says much but
I received 1 chat box notification from the mod which contained 2 separate messages, the second being a clarification aswell. Im not sure if that is what you meant, but I did not receive 2 separate pms/ chat boxes from Rodney

I got this too.

I think Paul and Downfall are both worth keeping around this phase. I'm the one that mentioned Paul's potential slip, yet I'm not the one wagoning him. What's that say about those who quickly voted Paul? I could easily see scum using the Paul 'slip' as reasoning to jump on a townie wagon, since it's easier to piggyback someone else's scum hunting than to fabricate it yourself as scum.

Vote: ffe since he's the biggest culprit in doing that besides downfall, and I dont want to vote downfall since he was the first real wagon, which is unlikely to form on scum.

I don't know what the vote count is anymore, but I'm gonna say no thank you to voting last on grand, if he really is a supersaint. I think voting out supersaint claims is a bad idea mechanically, because scum won't be dumb enough to vote them last. They'd just play musical chairs at the last second to not die in the aftermath. IMO, only vengeful claims should be lynched, and Supersaint claims need to be killed by any vengeful townie that dies. Call it a policy kill if you want, but it needs to be done. This is the best way for town to win with minimal casualties I think.

[ixt]

I got this too.

I think Paul and Downfall are both worth keeping around this phase. I'm the one that mentioned Paul's potential slip, yet I'm not the one wagoning him. What's that say about those who quickly voted Paul? I could easily see scum using the Paul 'slip' as reasoning to jump on a townie wagon, since it's easier to piggyback someone else's scum hunting than to fabricate it yourself as scum.

Vote: ffe since he's the biggest culprit in doing that besides downfall, and I dont want to vote downfall since he was the first real wagon, which is unlikely to form on scum.

I don't know what the vote count is anymore, but I'm gonna say no thank you to voting last on grand, if he really is a supersaint. I think voting out supersaint claims is a bad idea mechanically, because scum won't be dumb enough to vote them last. They'd just play musical chairs at the last second to not die in the aftermath. IMO, only vengeful claims should be lynched, and Supersaint claims need to be killed by any vengeful townie that dies. Call it a policy kill if you want, but it needs to be done. This is the best way for town to win with minimal casualties I think.

reasoning on why this should happen? if someone who claimed vengeful is lynched and flips town, why should they be directed to focus on those who claimed saint? Now, i say this with no relation to whatever Grand could be (after all, too limited info). making this kind of remark puts a slight question mark on exalt's affiliation but ill see from here. would like an updated VC soon. i think my vote is still downfall? i forget lol

[Voth]

Grand clearly has amnesia and thinks that he claimed Saint in the thread, which he did not, as I already pointed out earlier. He must be thinking of the fact that he PMed ixt with this info. It was a complete piggyback on ixts claim, and as I stated before, ixt at least made an earlier post that gave credibility to that claim.

PMing anyone on day 1 is a goofball move and scummy as hell.

ixt, when did grand PM you that he was a Saint? Day/time?

[ixt]

uhhhh the timestamp was a lil past midnight after checking

[ixt]

unvote

[RoDNeY]

Current Vote Count

Downfall - Halp, Sdrawcab, Kthx
Grand - Willby, Voth, The_Paul
The_Paul - Ffe, Downfall
Voth - Grand
Halp - Field
Ffe - Exalt

There is still a lot of movement going on so i will extend this phase until i get home from work and can properly phase change. I saw a few questions in the thread about the setup. For balance purposes all I can say is the information already listed in the rules.

[ixt]

so what happens to those who fail to vote? lol Grand on there twice

[ixt]

if the focus right now is Grand, Downfall, and Ffe, to those who havent noticed Down and Ffe votes are both slapped onto paul, which he himself mentioned this occurrence. Something to look at. Have halp and backwards mysteriously disappeared?

[ffe]

A whole bandwagon of 2 people eh Exalt? That makes sense I guess...


or maybe you're protecting your scum friend.

Not too revealing atm, but will be revealing once we find out either of your actual roles.

"Dont bandwagon" does not convince me to change my vote at this time

[ixt]

so what youre saying is exalt is connected to paul? hmmm

[ixt]

this new piece of info is fairly important imo, as previous info has already seemingly "tied" down and ffe, and now claim has been made for Exalt and paul. now i dont know if it could be one non-town role forcibly tied to a townie, could be possible as well. Voicing the information we have at the moment.

[Beast]

Well, since I can kill anyone I want, i'm going to FINAL VOTE: VOTH How dare you question my loyalty to town.

[ixt]

Well, since I can kill anyone I want, i'm going to FINAL VOTE: VOTH How dare you question my loyalty to town.

wait what