Mafia 2020: Town of Salem

[WillBy]

Convienent for Dr WillBy to claim there are now multiple doctors as well as say Kassius has 4 BP vests when nobody visited the 'doctor' that protects only himself. Did Kassius lose a vest? Wouldn't he know if he did? If there ends up being two claimed docs, then WillBy is lying imo.

As for him being poisoner, isnt there some kind of potion maker role that cures it? If I was cured last night (since WillBy was caught visiting me N1), and scum kill using a poisoner, we'd not see an NK until tomorrow anyway.

I never claimed there was a second protective role, jessup/kassius claimed it. I said that it was unlikely not not impossible, but all evidence pointed towards him.being survivor, which he later confirmed. The fact that nobody visited me last night makes it even more likely that Kassius was targeted last night. He loses vests every use, not just when he gets targeted. Additionally, beasts role (lookout in ToS) does not see people who self targeted. These are the mechanics of the game, available from a simple Google search "Town of Salem Doctor/Survivor/Body Guard/Lookout". I am unclear why people are doubting how the game works.

Both Exalt and Jessup cant leave this behind and trust that I might be a doctor, which is pretty slimy. ToS apparently has lots of roles that could apparently visit one night and not the rest. But you all are naming the crazy deep roles like poison doctor, vampire, arsonist rather than accepting the far more likely truth that I am town doctor, I didnt come up with some elaborate fake claim, town does have one protective role and that's me, you are wasting everyone's time with attempting to lynch me.

Exalt, how does it feel to be arguing the same points as Jessup?

[WillBy]

VAMPIRE ToS Description

Convert others to

Vampires

at night. If you bite any member of the

Mafia

that isn't the

Godfather

or any member of the

Coven

besides the

Coven Leader

with the

Necronomicon

(Immune roles), they will die and you will be able to bite again the next night. You must wait one night after a successful conversion to bite again. Win by killing or converting all

Town

members,

Mafia

,

Coven

,

Neutral Killing

roles

There can only be 4 vampires maximum. If the Vampires bite while they have 4 members, they will deal a Basic attack to their target regardless of who they are.

Dont forget that I might be cultafia leader, or head dementor

[Kassius]

I never claimed there was a second protective role, jessup/kassius claimed it. I said that it was unlikely not not impossible, but all evidence pointed towards him.being survivor, which he later confirmed. The fact that nobody visited me last night makes it even more likely that Kassius was targeted last night. He loses vests every use, not just when he gets targeted. Additionally, beasts role (lookout in ToS) does not see people who self targeted. These are the mechanics of the game, available from a simple Google search "Town of Salem Doctor/Survivor/Body Guard/Lookout". I am unclear why people are doubting how the game works.

Both Exalt and Jessup cant leave this behind and trust that I might be a doctor, which is pretty slimy. ToS apparently has lots of roles that could apparently visit one night and not the rest. But you all are naming the crazy deep roles like poison doctor, vampire, arsonist rather than accepting the far more likely truth that I am town doctor, I didnt come up with some elaborate fake claim, town does have one protective role and that's me, you are wasting everyone's time with attempting to lynch me.

Exalt, how does it feel to be arguing the same points as Jessup?

Why lynch Jessup though, he seems harmless so far with the sorts of things that's come up in this thead. He's gone full-town, like Ben Stiller in Tropic Thunder.

[WillBy]

missing origin stories from kthx, vehicle, and partyfalcon.

What do you mean origin stories?

What people did last night? Because that list is incomplete.
Role claims? Because that list is incomplete.
Singular substantial posts this phase? Dont mistake copy/paste for substance, Tower isnt a jeenyuss. And your list is incomplete

[Beast]

What do you mean origin stories?

What people did last night? Because that list is incomplete.
Role claims? Because that list is incomplete.
Singular substantial posts this phase? Dont mistake copy/paste for substance, Tower isnt a jeenyuss. And your list is incomplete

Lol geez i was really stoned and jk about that, stop bullying me, when I got your back.

[WillBy]

Why lynch Jessup though, he seems harmless so far with the sorts of things that's come up in this thead. He's gone full-town, like Ben Stiller in Tropic Thunder.

Why do you think he is town? Because he asked who you targeted last night? I think that just means hes too stupid to infer like the rest of us did that you self protected. There is no nuance in asking the question.

I've been on jessup all game- day 1, she provided psuedo townie intelligence analyzing setup, which is fake discussion just to seem town and feel out town power roles. she was the first one to mention third parties, which in my experience either means shes third party himself, or she's scum who'd rather town look at third parties than herself.

Day 2, she instantly jumped on me thinking I was caught scum, while every experienced player in the game thought beast made a stupid mistake and shouldnt have revealed a non-killing role. Then she changed her tune once I claimed, realizing that it would be better to be have me trust her, which is why she PMed me and Voth. To get trust and be on the inner circle. Then theres the fact that she PMed at all- breaking the rules. As a host, I cant stand this. And it irks me that ixt even said hed allow it. Finally (for day 2), what many seem to think is is her greatest pro-town move I see as a possible scum move. She didnt want to get on the train to lynch Voth, which seemed like a sure thing at the time (5 people lynching voth). So she moved it somewhere innocent looking, onto backwards, following the only actually confirmed townie.

Day 3, Jessup has spent purely combing through ToS wiki finding every role with a night action and listing those as my possible roles. But, she did take an opportunity to team up with kassius to try to throw shade onto me. Once she learned he was only telling half truths about himself, she afked. Then back to any other reason I could have visited exalt N1.

But in the end, the thing that really makes me suspicious of jessup is how she throws around he "trust", but wont tell the people she trusts what her role is. Why wouldnt you tell the doctor what your role is?

[Jessup]

Lol geez i was really stoned and jk about that, stop bullying me, when I got your back.

Willby doesn't have ur back and he doesn't have mine. If he had your back he would of protected you last night. If he had my back he wouldn't have immediately outed my harmless pm saying I trusted him and been on my back ever since. He smells soooooooo bad...….:worried2:

[WillBy]

Here's our pms btw

xt said I could pm if I really wanted. I have selected you and voth to pm because I trust your claim for now. Ask Voth what pm I sent him. I am playing up of our rivalry to draw out scum who join the voth bandwagon and PROMISE I will not vote for him this phase. I'm trying to get people to talk before day phase gets too late because if town stays in shell again and hardly posts we will never get any info. I believe voth is in fact a bus driver!!

What's your role then?

I can' say but have easter egg to prove it

[the_paul]

There has to be something else going here. Either the mafia team is braindead, or we're missing something. Anyone who even skimmed the thread knew that Kassius was claiming an x-shot bulletproof role, and knew there was a 50/50 chance that Willby would protect either himself or Beast. That leaves a long list of other targets that can be reasonably assumed to be unprotected. So why wasn't there a kill then? I don't get it. If we have to start the voting, I'd personally go the direction of one of the 4 people who voted for Voth: kthx, vehicle, partyfalcon, kassius. Particularly those who haven't addressed why they did it yet.

I also understand that there are a huge amount of roles available in this setup. I'm not going to go down every avenue of every possible role, because that doesn't help anybody. I was able to make up some bullshit narrative last game and luckily there was 1 role out of the 100s of roles available that fit the claim I pulled out of my ass. This confusion bought enough time for town to lose the game. I'm not going to be distracted by the same strategy here. Call it scummy or naive or whatever you want, but until we have any shred of proof about all of these crazy cultist arsonist consigliere roles, I'm just going to play the game like I always do.

[Jessup]

But in the end, the thing that really makes me suspicious of jessup is how she throws around he "trust", but wont tell the people she trusts what her role is. Why wouldnt you tell the doctor what your role is?

:vampire::vampire::vampire::vampire::vampire::vamp ire: Doctor Count Dracula

What doctor claims day 1 when not even that under that much pressure? I hate how you claimed doc and just waltz around acting like the claim makes you confirmed. Far far from it,, do you deserve to be believed? What dum dum wud not question this?

[WillBy]

:vampire::vampire::vampire::vampire::vampire::vamp ire: Doctor Count Dracula

What doctor claims day 1 when not even that under that much pressure? I hate how you claimed doc and just waltz around acting like the claim makes you confirmed. Far far from it,, do you deserve to be believed? What dum dum wud not question this?

It was day 2, idiot. Beast revealed that I'd visited exalt the night before. And you said in the PM that you believed me.

I'm going to stop responding to jessup as hes the only one actually making the accusations and it's only because my vote is on him.

[Kassius]

There has to be something else going here. Either the mafia team is braindead, or we're missing something. Anyone who even skimmed the thread knew that Kassius was claiming an x-shot bulletproof role, and knew there was a 50/50 chance that Willby would protect either himself or Beast. That leaves a long list of other targets that can be reasonably assumed to be unprotected. So why wasn't there a kill then? I don't get it. If we have to start the voting, I'd personally go the direction of one of the 4 people who voted for Voth: kthx, vehicle, partyfalcon, kassius. Particularly those who haven't addressed why they did it yet.

I also understand that there are a huge amount of roles available in this setup. I'm not going to go down every avenue of every possible role, because that doesn't help anybody. I was able to make up some bullshit narrative last game and luckily there was 1 role out of the 100s of roles available that fit the claim I pulled out of my ass. This confusion bought enough time for town to lose the game. I'm not going to be distracted by the same strategy here. Call it scummy or naive or whatever you want, but until we have any shred of proof about all of these crazy cultist arsonist consigliere roles, I'm just going to play the game like I always do.

This is why I'm confused about the Willby/Jessup thing tbh. Jessup and Willby have at least claimed something. But the ones in bold, other than me? We need to get on the same page here imo.

[Jessup]

Here's our pms btw

Will by breaking rules by copying and pasting pms.. which I already explained to town in detail. Dude just stop already ffs. You could be seriously mod killed for that. Really smart.

[WillBy]

There has to be something else going here. Either the mafia team is braindead, or we're missing something. Anyone who even skimmed the thread knew that Kassius was claiming an x-shot bulletproof role, and knew there was a 50/50 chance that Willby would protect either himself or Beast. That leaves a long list of other targets that can be reasonably assumed to be unprotected. So why wasn't there a kill then? I don't get it. If we have to start the voting, I'd personally go the direction of one of the 4 people who voted for Voth: kthx, vehicle, partyfalcon, kassius. Particularly those who haven't addressed why they did it yet.

I also understand that there are a huge amount of roles available in this setup. I'm not going to go down every avenue of every possible role, because that doesn't help anybody. I was able to make up some bullshit narrative last game and luckily there was 1 role out of the 100s of roles available that fit the claim I pulled out of my ass. This confusion bought enough time for town to lose the game. I'm not going to be distracted by the same strategy here. Call it scummy or naive or whatever you want, but until we have any shred of proof about all of these crazy cultist arsonist consigliere roles, I'm just going to play the game like I always do.

You suggested we vote one of the 4, but didnt throw a vote out. PF gave something of an explanation for their vote, and kassius has claimed survivor.

vote vehicle?

Not done with messup yet, but jesus, nothing is getting accomplished and nobody is willing to follow my leads

[Kassius]

Will by breaking rules by copying and pasting pms.. which I already explained to town in detail. Dude just stop already ffs. You could be seriously mod killed for that. Really smart.

Think it's only PMs from the game moderator/master you can't paste..