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Originally posted by the_paul View PostAre we really pushing this hard on Willby just because he visited someone (allegedly) who didn't die? I actually strongman killed someone last game and got caught, and you fucks didn't even kill me. You're all over-correcting. To act like Willby is mafia just because he visited someone is asinine. If Exalt dies to poison overnight, Willby dies. I don't know if Exalt has an action or not, I don't want to know, but I imagine if he did and was roleblocked, Exalt would have spoken up because that would make Willby 99% the mafia roleblocker.
Pushing to lynch Willby or force a claim seems like scum going super hard on the low hanging fruit.
Vote KASSIUS
This can and probably will change, but the hard push on Willby who can't be tied to anything other than visiting someone yet, seems way off. Much more likely that Willby is investigative or protective than a scum role.
Anyway, the scummiest bullshit shitposts come from the usual suspect, but have a different tone to them this game and makes me think...
unvote Willby
vote Jessup
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The only thing I don't like is WillBy basically asking other people to claim, hinting that he got some kind of info from last night, yet he isn't here giving it. Beast claims to have watched me and saw WillBy visit. WillBy basically confirmed he did (because what else could he do), so that means he outted himself as a PR of some kind. He could be a scum PR, in which case, maybe he knows he is fucked and is asking for other claims to salvage something from it. Otherwise, he is basically admitting he is a town PR and is probably going to get killed for it. I have no idea if there are any special third party PRs that don't kill people in ToS, but if there are, then that's also a possibility. Either way, not giving info if he has any after already being caught is pretty dumb imo, and WillBy isn't a dumb player. I'm trying to understand his angle here, but it isn't looking great imo.
To put it more plainly: If WillBy was a doctor/protective-type role, he wouldn't be asking if there are any more busdriver-type roles out there. If he was an investigative role, he would know the cat is already out of the bag and he would give whatever information he has. He would only ask about a bus driver after giving that info, not before. The only other option I can see is because he is scum and got caught doing something bad. Looking at the Town of Salem wiki gives me a headache, because there's like a million scum PR roles that visit people and don't kill them immediately. Hex Master? Poisoner? Plaguebearer? It's ridiculous.
So yeah, I'm waiting on WillBy to give some information, and I'm wondering why he hasn't.
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Ok, time to break the silence. I've been weighing the options, claim or not claim, and how quickly will I be killed afterwards. My decision is made listening to town get divided. And besides, I think I know how to break it.
I am the town doctor. I protected Exalt last night, as I was hoping one of you assholes would try to kill him N1.
So what do we do now? We coordinate. We have a doctor and a watcher, meaning if I protect beast each night, and beast watches me each night, we can make ourselves unsafe targets for scum. Oh and before scum gets too comfortable, I do have the option to self protect...
Now, rather than screw around lynching the doctor or the watcher, let's take a look at the other targets still around.
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Oh, lest I forget: There's also...Disguiser
(Disg)Choose a target to disguise yourself as. Forger Choose a person and rewrite their last will at night. Framer Choose one person to frame each night. Hypnotist
(Hypno)You may sneak into a players house at night and plant a memory. DLC only Janitor
(Jan, Jani)Choose a dying person to clean each night. Blackmailer
(BM, BMer)Choose one person each night to blackmail. Consigliere
(Consig)Check one person for their exact role each night. Consort
(Cons)Distract someone each night. RaCka> imagine standing out as a retard on subspace
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Originally posted by Exalt View Post
Pretty sure this combined with Beast's amazing play just confirmed you as an investigative role, or at least that you're claiming one indirectly.
Mine as well give the info if you have any at this point.
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Originally posted by Vehicle View PostI'm on mobile so this odkbablt won't be my usual diatribe.
I'm between exalt and Voth with a little kthx sprinkled in. IIRC Exalt was the second vote on epic li (town), willby, and halp (town). Those were the three side-wagons that formed while Voth had the most votes and he ultimately helped get halp lynched.
The question is really whether you believe Voths roleclaim because, despite what kthx said (which is why I'm suspicious of him), it cannot be verified. Maybe it's true or maybe he pulled it out of his ass to skate by at the end of a round.
So thats what I've seen in my phond reading and so I am going to:
Vote Exalt
Exalts voting patterns on D1 raise suspicious and if he flips scum then we have at least one other prime candidate to go for in Voth, since Exalt worked to get the heat off him. Exalts a better choice now in case what Voth is saying is indeed true.
Also all this Willby stuff only solidifies my view because it seems like Beast just outted a possible town power role for the sake of it. If willby visited exalt, but exalt is still alive, it proves nothing in terms of Willbys innocence.
Hey I guess it kind of turned into a diatribe anyway.
I already addressed the fact that I went to bed with my vote on Halp, and the reason Halp got lynched was because Vehicle unvoted Voth at deadline to vote for me, knowing full well I wouldn't be lynched. He threw his vote away for no damn reason and then tries to pin Halp's lynch solely on me. He conveniently forgot to mention that Backwards and Paul were also on that wagon, or the fact that 8 fucking players were either on solo wagons or abstaining. He also claims voth is faking his claim, which is entirely possible, but Voth was the only other wagon yesterday and Vehicle fucking jumped off it at the last second to save him. Seems to me Vehicle is full of shit here.
Nice try with manufacturing a fake case on me Vehicle. I applaud the effort, but cmon man. Even you could do better than this. Your own vote history fucks you over more than anything else. You literally saved Voth and got Halp lynched indirectly by unvoting Voth at the last second, then have the nerve to try to pretend I saved Voth instead lol.RaCka> imagine standing out as a retard on subspace
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Vote Count as of now is
Voth- 3) Jessup, Beast , Kthx
Exalt- 1) Vehicle
Beast- 1) sdrawkcab
Willby- 1) Kassius
Jessup- 1) Voth
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