Mafia 2020: Town of Salem

[Jessup]

I was being sarcastic, as I doubt that we have another busdriver, and jessup asked them all to roleclaim.

Shouldn't they though if there are any? We gotta catch voth in his lie lol.

[Apocalypse WOW!]

Uff da. Okay, I'm caught up. Thoughts: Beast is town, just really dumb town. Willby doing an action at night doesn't really mean anything. There's a weird bandwagon starting on voth that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And Jessup just seems like a bull in a china shop and it's hard to understand what he does or does not actually believe. Nobody seems to have any real evidence of anything, or at least to cop to it. Based on this little bit of evidence, I'm gonna vote Jessup just for trying to pick huge fights without any real cause behind them?

[Vehicle]

Unvote Exalt Vote Voth

After wading through this thread on my phone:
- Beast, why the fuck did you do that?
- Jessup, really two bus drivers?
- Voth, I thought you said you weren't going to use your driving abilities?
- Exalt didn't leave the house last night, dials my suspicions down a little bit
- Willby is NOT confirmed town but we shouldn't be voting for him.

Day 1 busdriver roleclaim while under duress, a promise not to use it followed by saying you used it, perhaps to cover in case you were seen somehow, quoting the_paul for being scum and then voting Jessup.

Also, let's be honest, if you flip mafia and I voted for anyone else in this post, I'd be a prime candidate for D3 lynch. I shoud of just left my vote where it was yesterday.

Hoping to get computer fixed, sorry for garbage post quality.

[Jessup]

Uff da. Okay, I'm caught up. Thoughts: Beast is town, just really dumb town. Willby doing an action at night doesn't really mean anything. There's a weird bandwagon starting on voth that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And Jessup just seems like a bull in a china shop and it's hard to understand what he does or does not actually believe. Nobody seems to have any real evidence of anything, or at least to cop to it. Based on this little bit of evidence, I'm gonna vote Jessup just for trying to pick huge fights without any real cause behind them?

ROFL u don't know the history obviously between me and Voth. The guy is bad at this game and always playing selfish and ruining town. I have stuck up for willby , I stuck up for beast. I did NOTHING to you. I help list vote counts sigh.

I was a little drunk last night and raging at voth because he says he bus rode me and himself so if he got targeted I would die. Plus his claim is so convenient as it protects him no matter what info town comes up with him on he can say its all reversed because he is a transporter who flips all results if he drives himself. I'm mad because he claimed Day 1 and decided to drive himself which was a stupid play. It was self serving and endangered me as town. He basically c0ck blocked town and threw me under the bus as if I got investigated by a cop I'd come up guilty. This guy has history of attacking and ruining my games.

Besides my anger at voth I don't see why on earth you see me as some bull in a china shop. I've been very pro town.

[WillBy]

Shouldn't they though if there are any? We gotta catch voth in his lie lol.

Why do you think Voth is lying about his claim? Of course if there was a counter claim, we could catch Voth, but that assumes a lot.

I dont know why the presumed, un-counter claimed bus driver would be our top priority. He should not use his actions at night, as that can pose a risk to towns investigations.

We need to start looking at the unclaimed people.

Vote jessup

[WillBy]

- Exalt didn't leave the house last night, dials my suspicions down a little bit

This one isnt necessarily true.

[kthx]

This one isnt necessarily true.

That's a weird statement from vehicle.. he has played long enough to know watchers see who visits not if they stay or leave.

"The Watcher is an informative role that can target a player at Night and learn who, if anybody, targeted that player the same Night (but not what actions were performed on that player)."
- mafia wiki

Wonder if that's a scum slip

[Vehicle]

Oh true literally I was just driving and was like 'wait watcher wouldn't know if he left' so I'm trying it while driving. My bad, brain fart. Exalt is as suspicious as before.

[Jessup]

Why do you think Voth is lying about his claim? Of course if there was a counter claim, we could catch Voth, but that assumes a lot.

I dont know why the presumed, un-counter claimed bus driver would be our top priority. He should not use his actions at night, as that can pose a risk to towns investigations.

We need to start looking at the unclaimed people.

Vote jessup

It seems so typical, a convenient safe self protecting claim of voth ..That's why I asked if anyone else was a busdriver type role to see if we could catch him directly in a lie. So far no one has come out but it still could be complete bs. As vehicle said he also said he wouldn't drive and he did which is shady as crap. I got angry seeing him go back on word and took it personally he targeted me too. Voth is he is always coming at me to ruin my game it seems. It's like I can never have a chance to even play with this guy.

[kthx]

Oh true literally I was just driving and was like 'wait watcher wouldn't know if he left' so I'm trying it while driving. My bad, brain fart. Exalt is as suspicious as before.

The only thing it means is the claimed watcher either outed two power roles far too early in the game or hes lying which I honestly don't understand how that would benefit anyone. But beast might be retarded so I might have to drink myself to near comatose before I can get into his mindset to see what he was thinking.

[Exalt]

Jessup why are you constantly playing victim over Voth? Just ignore him if he bothers you so much? I really dont understand this vendetta. You act like only he ruins games, while you vote only based on stuff not even game related. He may or may not be lying about the busdriver claim, but no more so than anyone else's claim. If anything, him driving you and him sounds like something Voth would do, making the claim more believable.

So what you're saying is you dont care if he's town or scum, and you're just angry that he ruins your game. Why are you so worried about a busdriver so much right now anyway? What makes this game so different from before?

[Vehicle]

OK I'm on my work computer while my PC tries to do a clean Windows install....

I'm honestly not super comfortable lynching Voth. Jessup and Beast voted Voth for personal reasons (understandably and the reason I voted for him D1). Kthx's reasoning is the same as mine:

I'm starting to think Voth might be guilty, apparently we have three cops, four watchers, and two transporters or some shit. I was willing to give him a pass yesterday but if we actually have a watcher and invest (assuming they aren't both mafia hatching a scheme).

It's very possible that Voth's roleclaim is bullshit, he made it when his neck was in the noose. It's a role that can't really be verified and an easy one to claim. Even if he is telling the truth, he promised not to use his busdriving capabilities and then did exactly that on N1. That has me thinking he's potentially scum and is saying he busdrove someone in case they were being watched (him showing up to bus drive would count as visiting, right?).

That's why I have my vote on Voth, and it's not a great reason I admit.

But it's also true that given my history with Voth this game, if I change my vote off of him (or didn't vote for him in my last post) and he flips scum, It'd be neck in the noose tomorrow.

So yeah, I am open to suggestions because I'm not 100% comfortable with the Voth vote, but there aren't any real leads to go off of.

[Jessup]

I don't get this bandwagon on me. What did I do wrong? Why does someone who is trying to post and play get focused on when lurkers get a pass? I'm thinking KAssius, party falcon, the paul or apocalypse wow should be looked at. Scum LURKS! I'm stuck again but am willing too to give voth the benefit of the doubt this phase too but something has to change in votes on me to get me to change my vote because it is tied.

[Exalt]

I don't get this bandwagon on me. What did I do wrong? Why does someone who is trying to post and play get focused on when lurkers get a pass? I'm thinking KAssius, party falcon, the paul or apocalypse wow should be looked at. Scum LURKS! I'm stuck again but am willing too to give voth the benefit of the doubt this phase too but something has to change in votes on me to get me to change my vote because it is tied.

This reminds me. Paul is being way too damn quiet for my liking. He never lurks like this as town, but its common for him as scum. I dont like it.

Vote: Paul

[kthx]

This reminds me. Paul is being way too damn quiet for my liking. He never lurks like this as town, but its common for him as scum. I dont like it.

Vote: Paul

Maybe his cat needed surgery or his goldfish is looking sickly.