[Mafia] First Game of Fall 2021

[Jessup]

It's clear at this point that paul and jessup are the mafia members, Voth and I are town. If paul weren't scum, the two mafia members would have piled on by now. They're holding back and waiting for Mark to make a move- anything incriminating guarantees a hammer on paul.
Only other alternative is Voth and me are both scum, but besides how stupid that would require us both to be, look at the voting records. Paul has singled in on our tracker, and Jessup's only vote is pushing a lynch on a useless Beast. I know you haven't played much before Mark, but these are classic scum tactics.
Optimal scum tactics in a hammer situation is to hold out and wait for a townie to vote for another town, and then 2-3 them for the win. Look at what paul and jessup are doing...

LOL I just saw this and this is ridiculous and scummy as crap coming from someone who voted as soon as possible when they knew votes were to be locked. The people waiting to vote are WAY more likely town because we wanted to take our time on this all important vote.

[Jessup]

You both could have missed the fact that you can't change votes at all today, and the goal was to see if you could get a quick hammer wagon going and then back off. I think the scummiest part though is that you had your vote queued up before our only town power role had even said anything. That's not a town move, especially when your vote is locked in. Thoughts on this, Jessup and @markMRW?

Also Jessup when it came to the field vote, I wanted to put some pressure on him to be more active, and I didn't want to leave it up to a tie at any just about any cost. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't have a good grasp on the current vote count and the time left in the phase though, which led to me flying by the seat of my pants and making a mistake.

Did you see I had hammered Voth? You literally changed and retied vote right after I hammered Voth to break the tie. As a result I had to unvote beast..

[the_paul]

Right, me and Willby as a two man scum team colluded to do the scummiest possible thing we could today. Makes sense.

You both could have missed the fact that you can't change votes at all today, and the goal was to see if you could get a quick hammer wagon going and then back off. I think the scummiest part though is that you had your vote queued up before our only town power role had even said anything. That's not a town move, especially when your vote is locked in. Thoughts on this, Jessup and @markMRW?

Also Jessup when it came to the field vote, I wanted to put some pressure on him to be more active, and I didn't want to leave it up to a tie at any just about any cost. I'll be the first to admit that I didn't have a good grasp on the current vote count and the time left in the phase though, which led to me flying by the seat of my pants and making a mistake.

[Voth]

at least one of you is scum I shud say.. possibly both.

Willby could potentially be, but that seems very far fetched based on how Paul is acting. Door is open though, but I doubt it. I'm town. If you're town, Jessup, get your head out of your ass for once.

[Jessup]

at least one of you is scum I shud say.. possibly both.

[Jessup]

Right, me and Willby as a two man scum team colluded to do the scummiest possible thing we could today. Makes sense.

Either way, one of you is scum ..

[Jessup]

Let's see .. so MArk is town. I am town.

Between Willby and Voth at least one is scum.

Voth is either voting with scum Willby or Willby is town and scum Voth jumped in to seize the opportunity. Both also could think it was a cute idea to vote together early as scum. Either way Voth jumped in making a typical town destroying bad town vote which he does so often.

I see no reason personally T_P would hammer vote field as scum when a tie would have happened and they could have choosen behind closed doors who would go but this is all on the chance he did NOT see my change of vote on Voth which I had to revert back to beast to avert a second tie last second.

So.. why did T_P immediately jump in and re tie the vote after I hammered Voth?? Was it on purpose or did he not see my vote? To me this is main question about T_P's guilt. This could have been innocent and it could have been a way to save Voth and make the vote last second 2 voth 2 field.

I think we shud vote Willby or Voth this one but which one do you guys think?

[Markmrw]

Willby is right this is my first game and i don't know the tactics.
Is Willby really trying to help me or is he trying to trick me into voting for my long term bit on the side T_P

Is voth as scummy as people say and is just nasty person even as a town.

Why didn't Mafia kill me last night?

I am so confused

[Voth]

Jessup Beast died last night, all we can say for sure is that Willby did not kill him. I mean this assumes that Mark is telling the truth, which is basically confirmed, but I had to throw that disclaimer in there.

For me, it comes down to either Willby or Voth. We know Voth didn't kill night 1 because Mark said he jailed him, and we know Willby didn't kill night 2 for the same reason. But, they could have easily gotten lucky and had 1 person kill the first night and switched who performed the actions. I say that because I don't think that there is any coincidence in the fact that both Willby and Voth vote on me immediately in their first post after the phase changed. Voth didn't even wait for the only (basically) confirmed town power role to say what his actions were. Oh, cherry on top is the fact that they both pulled their stunt on the first day where we can't even change our fucking votes. Pretty clear that they tried to get a train rolling so I'd get hammer voted out before anyone even thought about it. But, it didn't work, so now the game is up to the 3 of us. We control the day phase now. I'm 99.9% going to vote for Voth, at least Willby waited for Mark to tell us what his night action was and the result. I could be talked into Willby, but that's where I'm at.

Also, yeah the lynch on Field sucked. I was trying to put some pressure on the inactive people rather than 3 of us just arguing nonstop, but Field just never showed up after that. Admittedly, I've been real shitty this game keeping track of how much time is left in phases and what the vote counts are, but that was still a shitty situation. Sucks Field was the tracker, but putting pressure on someone drums up activity a lot of the time, but it backfired here.

Right, me and Willby as a two man scum team colluded to do the scummiest possible thing we could today. Makes sense.

[WillBy]

It's clear at this point that paul and jessup are the mafia members, Voth and I are town. If paul weren't scum, the two mafia members would have piled on by now. They're holding back and waiting for Mark to make a move- anything incriminating guarantees a hammer on paul.
Only other alternative is Voth and me are both scum, but besides how stupid that would require us both to be, look at the voting records. Paul has singled in on our tracker, and Jessup's only vote is pushing a lynch on a useless Beast. I know you haven't played much before Mark, but these are classic scum tactics.
Optimal scum tactics in a hammer situation is to hold out and wait for a townie to vote for another town, and then 2-3 them for the win. Look at what paul and jessup are doing...

[Jessup]

I'm completely blind apparently lol thx.. sorry for the oversight .. its been a rought 2 days irl and wrapping my mind around this game is challenging.

[the_paul]

Okay so on account of just getting home and on account of the general activity level, I'm making the unilateral decision to also make this day closer to 72 than to 48 hours. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.

Night has ended! Beast has died! He was a Town Citizen!

Day 3 has begun and will last until 9:00 PM EST on November 5th.

Jessup Beast died last night, all we can say for sure is that Willby did not kill him. I mean this assumes that Mark is telling the truth, which is basically confirmed, but I had to throw that disclaimer in there.

For me, it comes down to either Willby or Voth. We know Voth didn't kill night 1 because Mark said he jailed him, and we know Willby didn't kill night 2 for the same reason. But, they could have easily gotten lucky and had 1 person kill the first night and switched who performed the actions. I say that because I don't think that there is any coincidence in the fact that both Willby and Voth vote on me immediately in their first post after the phase changed. Voth didn't even wait for the only (basically) confirmed town power role to say what his actions were. Oh, cherry on top is the fact that they both pulled their stunt on the first day where we can't even change our fucking votes. Pretty clear that they tried to get a train rolling so I'd get hammer voted out before anyone even thought about it. But, it didn't work, so now the game is up to the 3 of us. We control the day phase now. I'm 99.9% going to vote for Voth, at least Willby waited for Mark to tell us what his night action was and the result. I could be talked into Willby, but that's where I'm at.

Also, yeah the lynch on Field sucked. I was trying to put some pressure on the inactive people rather than 3 of us just arguing nonstop, but Field just never showed up after that. Admittedly, I've been real shitty this game keeping track of how much time is left in phases and what the vote counts are, but that was still a shitty situation. Sucks Field was the tracker, but putting pressure on someone drums up activity a lot of the time, but it backfired here.

[Jessup]

You suck if you're town. Oh, and you also suck if you're scum - that was a few posts of complete bullshit and I am actively angry that I took time out of my day to read it. You said absolutely nothing in a ton of words.

At least I havent just blurt out a name to vote on without feeling out peoples feelings this round unlike you stupidly did. I am publicly displaying the issues town faces for this all important vote that should be considered. I brought up many good points too I feel.

Also I brought up our host missed that beast is alive and as a result probably gives town one extra day to vote.

Leaning towards VOTH WILLBY and THE_PAUL as of now

[Voth]

For me right now choices are Willby, Voth. Beast and The_paul.

You suck if you're town. Oh, and you also suck if you're scum - that was a few posts of complete bullshit and I am actively angry that I took time out of my day to read it. You said absolutely nothing in a ton of words.

[Jessup]

For me right now choices are Willby, Voth. Beast and The_paul.