Religion and Other Things

[Stylez]

I've completed one degree in human psychology, now I'm back in college for my computer science major... So, I've been to school, though you don't need school to be informed...

And I love how you come up with some lame excuss to avoid what I'm really getting at... People try and drop subjects through humor and/or anger, that, or completely going off subject... Which are you trying to do right now?

One of the key rules of debating is to not let the other person get to you, no matter what...

[DoTheFandango]

WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT DEBATING?!

I bring up facts and you just dismiss them! WITH NOTHING TO BACK YOURSELF UP WITH.

You, sir, are an idiot, and I hope you get testicular cancer.

[Dealt]

How do you know? We have materials durable enough to withstand the heat, why can't we? I didn't mean an actual human being going down there, but just having something down there period... The heat isn't the problem, as much as actually drilling down there is...

btw stylez, while I respect your faith.. while your partly right that we do have materials that can withstand high heat temperatures.


I think its impossible for any material outside the core itself to withstand such temperaturs that are down there.. then even if we did manage to produce some material that wouldn't metaphorically die under the huge temps, it would surely be crushed under the masses of pressure due to gravity.

in short we couldn't go near the core whatsoever.

[Pressure Drop]

I've completed one degree in human psychology, now I'm back in college for my computer science major... So, I've been to school, though you don't need school to be informed...

And I love how you come up with some lame excuss to avoid what I'm really getting at... People try and drop subjects through humor and/or anger, that, or completely going of subject... Which are you trying to do right now?

One of the key rules of debating is to not let the other person get to you, no matter what...

wow so you lose then since you didn't address what i said but missed the point and quickly to saying i was a retard. good debate wait ... no it was a lame excuse, in fact you haven't been debating, if you think any of this is debating your mistaken - this is shit talking on a forum.

anyway i got to go, you completely missed my point and flew of the handle and have no idea about stars or the number of them in the universe, any wonder i thought you were a kid?

Maybe re- read my point instead of taking a head staggers at the word luck.

[Stylez]

WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT DEBATING?!

I bring up facts and you just dismiss them! WITH NOTHING TO BACK YOURSELF UP WITH.

You, sir, are an idiot, and I hope you get testicular cancer.

I took debate in highschool? And so did my sister, who is taking astronomy at FSU?

You bring nothing more than potential evidence, they aren't facts... Facts are things that can't be proven false, without any reason of doubt what-so-ever...

[Stylez]

btw stylez, while I respect your faith.. while your partly right that we do have materials that can withstand high heat temperatures.


I think its impossible for any material outside the core itself to withstand such temperaturs that are down there.. then even if we did manage to produce some material that wouldn't metaphorically die under the huge temps, it would surely be crushed under the masses of pressure due to gravity.

in short we couldn't go near the core whatsoever.

Eh, you're probably right, I was just being a prick to DoTheFandgoando...

I have no clue, I haven't researched into it, so I really wouldn't know... :P

I've seen the movie The Core though... I know, I know, I'm being facetious...

[Stylez]

wow so you lose then since you didn't address what i said but missed the point and quickly to saying i was a retard. good debate wait ... no it was a lame excuse, in fact you haven't been debating, if you think any of this is debating your mistaken - this is shit talking on a forum.

anyway i got to go, you completely missed my point and flew of the handle and have no idea about stars or the number of them in the universe, any wonder i thought you were a kid?

Maybe re- read my point instead of taking a head staggers at the word luck.

I don't debate people who dismiss my idea's and pushes theirs onto me... Certainly one's who use the word "luck" to back up their arguments on any field of science... Science proves things through research, not luck...

[Tone]

People who say 'prove god doesnt exist' are living in opposite world with a serious cognitive disorder

[DoTheFandango]

I took debate in highschool? And so did my sister, who is taking astronomy at FSU?

You bring nothing more than potential evidence, they aren't facts... Facts are things that can't be proven false, without any reason of doubt what-so-ever...

THEY ARE FACTS! READ THE FUCKING...

You know what. It's not worth it. It's not fucking worth it.

[SpiderMage]

Gotta love where this thread has went... -_-

I haven't read anything really since like 2 pages ago or so...

[Squeezer]

Gotta love where this thread has went... -_-

I haven't read anything really since like 2 pages ago or so...

Please read my first post, I think I wrote something helpful in there.

If I remember right.

And like it or not, something had to create the materials that made the big bang. There is a larger force out there, things don't just spontaneously erupt, to create new universes.

Even with anti-matter, which is supposed to prove the big bang theory, you need the catylist, in this case humans, to create the reaction, and provide the materials.

To say that there never was a creating force is silly. So, why not call this creating force God?

[Escalate]

Please read my first post, I think I wrote something helpful in there.

If I remember right.

And like it or not, something had to create the materials that made the big bang. There is a larger force out there, things don't just spontaneously erupt, to create new universes.

Even with anti-matter, which is supposed to prove the big bang theory, you need the catylist, in this case humans, to create the reaction, and provide the materials.

To say that there never was a creating force is silly. So, why not call this creating force God?

The question is: Why call it God? Especially if (as 99.9% of people do) you are going to associate the word God with some type of supernatural intelligent entity that is responsible for our creation. If your problem is with spontaneous creation, then let me ask you this: what created/caused the creating force you speak of? Was it just "there"? No matter what belief you hold you must acknowledge that some thing or force existed before the existence of time and space as we know it and has no cause or creator. If you want to call that thing/force God, then whatever...its just a bad use of the word, because it's a word thats associated with a massive amount of other nonsense made up by the human mind throughout the history of man.

6 entries found for god.
god ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gd)
n.
God
A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.
A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.
An image of a supernatural being; an idol.
One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god.
A very handsome man.
A powerful ruler or despot.

[Squeezer]

it's just a word.

edit: I dont know what created that force, and thinking about that too hard will give you a headache, but I just think it's silly to deny the fact that our entire existence just happened....spontaineously.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

Because most people see "God" as some superbeing who specifically created humans as humans (in his own image, in fact), not as evolved animals. They think he's responsible for all things and happenings directly, not just as something who set things in motion. These same people think that humans are some sort of special "only on one planet anywhere in the universe"-type thing. Religion has caused way more problems than it's ever solved, and is even at the core of some of the biggest problems we have today.

Believing in a creating force is one thing, and anyone can have faith in whatever they want to (I'm not about to stop you), but don't use it as a crutch.

[Stylez]

Ok, answer me this Tone...

You believe time began some where, correct?
You believe the universe had to of been created some how, correct?
You believe in the Big Bang Theory?
Do you believe in interplanetary dimensions?
Do you believe in Aliens?


Do you believe something can come from nothing?


Why am I asking you all these questions? Well, ask yourself this... If time had to begin some where, how did two atoms form out of nothing to collide into each other to form the Big Bang?

How was there even a universe if nothing or no one was here to create it? How can aliens create it, when the aliens never existed? How can someone or something from another dimension create us, when they never existed either?

I know what you're going to ask, where did God (or any deity for that matter) come from?

The best explanation of this that I can give you is... I don't know... But I do know that I'd rather believe in a entity such as God than anything you can come up with... Now, if you can determine a better solution, avoiding everything I already covered or elaborating further on them, by all means, intrigue me... I've thought about this stuff for a very long time, let's see what Mr. Tone can come up with...

I still want someone to answer this with a legitimate response...